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Russia has lost 250,000 Soldiers compared to Ukraine's 100,000

JFC, Russia sucks ass. https://www.nbcnews.com/world/ukr...
crawly range pervert
  06/04/25
isnt that how they have won wars throughout their entire his...
Rose unhinged locale
  06/04/25
True, but the last time they went for the Zerg-rush strategy...
crawly range pervert
  06/04/25
sounds right, yeah
Poppy multi-colored stock car
  06/09/25
Please stop baiting NSAM tp
Vigorous peach pocket flask national
  06/04/25
Reliable source? Center for Strategic and International Stud...
Henna hall
  06/04/25
fake news, Zelensky has already said they've only had 35,000...
walnut lay legal warrant
  06/04/25
there are no reliable numbers coming out of the fog of war o...
magenta state international law enforcement agency
  06/04/25
Seems like a more realistic estimate than these "millio...
Carnelian kink-friendly gay wizard church
  06/04/25
Why does Ukraine have man power shortages if they've only lo...
walnut lay legal warrant
  06/04/25
They're a fourth the population of Russia and they're not pa...
bisexual alcoholic bawdyhouse reading party
  06/04/25
can't they just stop being second world retards and can't yo...
Motley Seedy Senate
  06/04/25
Russian soldiers at the front a full decade and a half young...
appetizing twinkling uncleanness tattoo
  06/04/25
last I saw they were about 2 years apart and both armies med...
bisexual alcoholic bawdyhouse reading party
  06/04/25
and yet still they've lost 100k troops this year and have ba...
vengeful salmon space tank
  06/04/25
"they've lost 100k troops this year" LMAO
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
Why are they Afraid
cordovan hominid
  06/09/25
Both countries have had declining birth rates for years now....
bisexual alcoholic bawdyhouse reading party
  06/09/25
"Ukr has been able to undergo much deeper mobilization ...
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
russia having the same dipshit in power for 25 years with ZE...
Curious Library
  06/09/25
Russia is probably getting nicer with all the dumbest ethnic...
lascivious new version fortuitous meteor
  06/04/25
These meat grinder wars have a way of sending millions of me...
jade jewess
  06/04/25
The Ukrainian Red Cross says the cant find 400,000 Ukrainian...
appetizing twinkling uncleanness tattoo
  06/04/25
https://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727600&m...
Bull headed institution associate
  06/04/25
Holy shit.
Out-of-control brunch
  06/04/25
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Bull headed institution associate
  06/04/25
...
milky home foreskin
  06/04/25
...
Curious Library
  06/04/25
tcr
Cream wagecucks
  06/04/25
russia is killing Ukrainians at a rate of 5 to 1 and still c...
Curious Library
  06/09/25
Not strange at all. Ukraine is grabbing everyone off the st...
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
ok so the russia’s have higher numbers, have more moti...
Curious Library
  06/09/25
They don't have much higher numbers deployed. IIRC we're ta...
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
why are you ignoring the other two factors that you claim to...
Curious Library
  06/09/25
The equipment losses are a bigger problem. They won’t ...
Mischievous garrison
  06/04/25
...
crawly range pervert
  06/04/25
Cr. Russia can't produce their own equipment, which is why ...
walnut lay legal warrant
  06/04/25
but they have unlimited Chinese motorbikes
Curious Library
  06/04/25
Yeah the 6 million drones per year surely can't continue to ...
appetizing twinkling uncleanness tattoo
  06/04/25
What about the monowheels?
Diverse gas station
  06/04/25
...
milky home foreskin
  06/04/25
They're withdrawing from Ukraine right now
obsidian police squad
  06/04/25
The important realization is that even if they had the equip...
high-end multi-billionaire
  06/04/25
The Baltics are significantly easier than Ukraine for a vari...
Cream wagecucks
  06/04/25
The issue isn’t geography. They are not remotely compe...
high-end multi-billionaire
  06/05/25
Ukraine is fielding NATO weapons.
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
That doesn't make them nearly as well armed. What a stupid a...
high-end multi-billionaire
  06/09/25
Russia could easily crush the Baltics and most other NATO co...
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
only if the U.S. Air Force stays out of it otherwise lmao...
Curious Library
  06/09/25
1) The USAF would absolutely stay out of it. 2) It absolu...
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
lol, yeah 3 years of watching your mongrels struggle against...
Curious Library
  06/09/25
It’s about 1.5 times the size of Iraq which the US too...
Mischievous garrison
  06/05/25
A combo of Ukraine being willing to bury their entire male p...
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
he’s not capable of explaining this without resorting ...
Curious Library
  06/09/25
That's pretty amusing since you parrot the dumbest nafo talk...
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
the claim that you and AR parroted itt about Ukraine having ...
Curious Library
  06/09/25
1 million+ is casualties + POW/MIA. But same difference on ...
Cream wagecucks
  06/09/25
how are you so fucking retarded? AR said Ukraine had more...
Curious Library
  06/09/25
mostly criminals and dumbasses in the regions who gladly sig...
Stirring carmine nursing home personal credit line
  06/04/25
Why doesn't Ukraine do that instead of kidnapping people off...
obsidian police squad
  06/04/25
...
crawly range pervert
  06/09/25


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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: crawly range pervert

JFC, Russia sucks ass.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/ukraine/russia-ukraine-war-troop-casualties-1-million-report-csis-spiderweb-rcna210837

"Russia will likely surpass 1 million casualties in its war on Ukraine this summer, according to one of the world’s leading think tanks, reflecting the staggering human toll of President Vladimir Putin’s assault on his neighbor.

Around 250,000 of these Russian soldiers have died, the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies said in a report Tuesday.

Ukraine has also suffered heavy losses, with 400,000 casualties including between 60,000 and 100,000 killed, it said."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48985677)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: Rose unhinged locale

isnt that how they have won wars throughout their entire history?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48985704)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: crawly range pervert

True, but the last time they went for the Zerg-rush strategy, they had Lend-Lease from America backing them up.

Now, they're just getting their panties ripped off by a country a fraction of their size.

Correction, Ukraine isn't even giving them the dignity of pulling their panties down. They're just brutally forcing themselves into Russia dry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986188)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: Poppy multi-colored stock car

sounds right, yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999961)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: Vigorous peach pocket flask national

Please stop baiting NSAM tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48985718)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Henna hall

Reliable source? Center for Strategic and International Studies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48985735)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: walnut lay legal warrant

fake news, Zelensky has already said they've only had 35,000k casualties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986192)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: magenta state international law enforcement agency

there are no reliable numbers coming out of the fog of war on either side

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986847)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:47 AM
Author: Carnelian kink-friendly gay wizard church

Seems like a more realistic estimate than these "million dead" reports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986195)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:49 AM
Author: walnut lay legal warrant

Why does Ukraine have man power shortages if they've only lost 100k soldiers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986201)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: bisexual alcoholic bawdyhouse reading party

They're a fourth the population of Russia and they're not paying soldiers anywhere near what Russia pays. Russia had to up their pay massively to get more meat into the grinder. Both countries are afraid of mobilizing 25 and under population.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986218)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Motley Seedy Senate

can't they just stop being second world retards and can't you pee standing up for a change?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986238)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: appetizing twinkling uncleanness tattoo

Russian soldiers at the front a full decade and a half younger than their Hahol counterparts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986295)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 1:52 PM
Author: bisexual alcoholic bawdyhouse reading party

last I saw they were about 2 years apart and both armies median age was about 40.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986553)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: vengeful salmon space tank

and yet still they've lost 100k troops this year and have basically nothing to show for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986595)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:48 AM
Author: Cream wagecucks

"they've lost 100k troops this year"

LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999359)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: cordovan hominid

Why are they Afraid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999408)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 1:46 PM
Author: bisexual alcoholic bawdyhouse reading party

Both countries have had declining birth rates for years now. So youngsters are prized. People don't want to send their only innocent boy to be killed in war. Ukr has been able to undergo much deeper mobilization because the population is much more invested in the war. Though even their mobilization barely touches under 25's. Russia did one big round of mobilization that pissed off the population. They've made up for the enthusiasm gap with huge paydays for volunteers. That's allowed them avoid another big mobilization, particularly of youngsters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999867)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Cream wagecucks

"Ukr has been able to undergo much deeper mobilization because the population is much more invested in the war"

That's really not why. It isn't like anyone in Ukraine has any choice. The borders are closed. Those that had the means to escape did a long time ago and the population of people that live in Kiev controlled Ukraine is MUCH lower than people think. That's the reason why Ukraine has perpetual manpower issues. All elections are cancelled and this isn't short-term. For Russia the borders are open and anyone can simply leave. Russia's entire strategy is for life to continue BAU instead of moving to total war footing. A bunch of people left early in the war when they thought it was going to be there soon but they overwhelmingly came back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#49000057)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 3:27 PM
Author: Curious Library

russia having the same dipshit in power for 25 years with ZERO succession plan is a great situation to be in lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#49000122)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:58 AM
Author: lascivious new version fortuitous meteor

Russia is probably getting nicer with all the dumbest ethnic dudes dead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986225)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: jade jewess

These meat grinder wars have a way of sending millions of mentally ravaged veterans back into an unsuspecting civil society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986270)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: appetizing twinkling uncleanness tattoo

The Ukrainian Red Cross says the cant find 400,000 Ukrainian men and they somehow have an 800k man force with 2.5 million mobilized....The real number of Ukrainians dead is north of 1.2 million at this point. Russia has taken ~150k dead. The kill ratio is about 8 to 1 in Russia's favor.

The drone production story tells it all. Ukraine will make 2.5 million this year but Russia was already at 4 million last year and is pushing 6 million this year. The Russians have a 3 to 1 advantage is drones in raw numbers and they have better drones having fielded fiber optic drones first and the likes of Lancet first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986292)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 12:31 PM
Author: Bull headed institution associate

https://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727600&mc=9&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986312)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: Out-of-control brunch

Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986315)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: Bull headed institution associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986410)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: milky home foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986788)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 2:22 PM
Author: Curious Library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986624)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:43 PM
Author: Cream wagecucks

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48987851)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:41 AM
Author: Curious Library

russia is killing Ukrainians at a rate of 5 to 1 and still can’t move more than like 1km a week?

seems pretty strange

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999330)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Cream wagecucks

Not strange at all. Ukraine is grabbing everyone off the street, Russia is fielding a volunteer army. Ukraine isn't letting men leave the country, Russia is. Obviously it isn't permanently sustainable for Ukraine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999345)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: Curious Library

ok so the russia’s have higher numbers, have more motivated troops, and are killing Ukrainians at 5 to 1. gotcha

now please explain why they can’t move more than a km per week with all these advantages

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999353)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:52 AM
Author: Cream wagecucks

They don't have much higher numbers deployed. IIRC we're talking like 900k troops vs 800k troops or something similar. Ideally you have a 3 to 1 advantage and Russia can only produce that in certain areas of the front. They advance more than 1km a week.

This is from yesterday: https://x.com/Kalibrated_Maps/status/1931791702345286065

This is from the day before: https://x.com/Kalibrated_Maps/status/1931449645978280343

Several other advances during the same day.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999366)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Curious Library

why are you ignoring the other two factors that you claim to be true?

super motivated guys killing the enemy at 5 to 1 don’t need a 3 to 1 advantage to steamroll defenses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999397)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 1:08 PM
Author: Mischievous garrison

The equipment losses are a bigger problem. They won’t be able to invade anyone or adequately defend themselves for at least two decades even if they otherwise have enough personnel to do it. China isn’t going to sell them anything advanced and they can no longer make it themselves without Soviet supply chains and slave labor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986432)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: crawly range pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986471)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: walnut lay legal warrant

Cr. Russia can't produce their own equipment, which is why they're fighting with shovels and cannibalizing washing machines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986609)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Curious Library

but they have unlimited Chinese motorbikes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986629)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: appetizing twinkling uncleanness tattoo

Yeah the 6 million drones per year surely can't continue to be made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986690)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Diverse gas station

What about the monowheels?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986694)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: milky home foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986789)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: obsidian police squad

They're withdrawing from Ukraine right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48986795)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:01 PM
Author: high-end multi-billionaire

The important realization is that even if they had the equipment back, they wouldn't be able to do much with it. Can you imagine how well a Baltic invasion would have gone even if they were at their peak?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48987566)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:46 PM
Author: Cream wagecucks

The Baltics are significantly easier than Ukraine for a variety of reasons, such as much smaller land masses and populations. Many people don't understand just how massive Ukraine is. It is the second largest country in Europe after Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48987860)



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Date: June 5th, 2025 12:32 AM
Author: high-end multi-billionaire

The issue isn’t geography. They are not remotely competitive with NATO forces.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48988032)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: Cream wagecucks

Ukraine is fielding NATO weapons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999348)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: high-end multi-billionaire

That doesn't make them nearly as well armed. What a stupid argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999378)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Cream wagecucks

Russia could easily crush the Baltics and most other NATO countries. Ukraine was doing better earlier before most of the NATO weapons arrived.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999384)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 2:18 PM
Author: Curious Library

only if the U.S. Air Force stays out of it

otherwise lmao you would get smoked over a long weekend. like gulf war level slaughter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999954)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Cream wagecucks

1) The USAF would absolutely stay out of it.

2) It absolutely would not be and the US would take significant losses.

2 is also why 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#49000059)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Curious Library

lol, yeah 3 years of watching your mongrels struggle against Ukraine surely strikes fear in the hearts of our pilots

silly little dork. try taking Kharkiv before you have delusions of attacking NATO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#49000128)



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Date: June 5th, 2025 8:19 AM
Author: Mischievous garrison

It’s about 1.5 times the size of Iraq which the US took in a matter of weeks. Why has it taken Russia 3 years to capture 10% of Ukraine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48988493)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: Cream wagecucks

A combo of Ukraine being willing to bury their entire male population and Russia's unwillingness to adopt a full war posture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999351)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:47 AM
Author: Curious Library

he’s not capable of explaining this without resorting to nonsensical russiacuck speak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999357)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: Cream wagecucks

That's pretty amusing since you parrot the dumbest nafo talking points imaginable. And I pretty openly admit that Russia isn't going anywhere near hard enough and that the SMO bullshit is stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999419)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Curious Library

the claim that you and AR parroted itt about Ukraine having 1mn+ dead is by far the dumbest most baseless and retarded claim made by anyone on either side



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999826)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: Cream wagecucks

1 million+ is casualties + POW/MIA. But same difference on the battlefield. If anything, severely wounded is even worse because they're a continuing burden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#49000061)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: Curious Library

how are you so fucking retarded?

AR said Ukraine had more than 1.2 million dead and you said “cr”

now you’re giving all these mealy mouthed faggy qualifications. ratfaced weasel you are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#49000269)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 6:35 PM
Author: Stirring carmine nursing home personal credit line

mostly criminals and dumbasses in the regions who gladly signed up for $2k a month to go kill randos. it's like rounding up niggers in the US to go invade canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48987243)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:01 PM
Author: obsidian police squad

Why doesn't Ukraine do that instead of kidnapping people off the street?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48987772)



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Date: June 9th, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: crawly range pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5733250&forum_id=2...id.#48999217)