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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Lemon bateful location friendly grandma
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Know-it-all house corn cake
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
trip sweet tailpipe kitchen
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Lemon bateful location friendly grandma

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Comical zippy stain

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Comical zippy stain

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: trip sweet tailpipe kitchen

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Know-it-all house corn cake

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: trip sweet tailpipe kitchen

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Know-it-all house corn cake

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: trip sweet tailpipe kitchen

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: twinkling casino

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: jade hideous stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Black pungent native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: misunderstood puppy

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: ocher background story hunting ground

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Opaque space nowag

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: twinkling casino

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: diverse regret

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Duck-like spot

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: claret embarrassed to the bone dopamine filthpig

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49105022)