Had an interesting conversation with a paleontologist friend
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Date: May 15th, 2025 12:25 AM Author: .,,.,.,,.,..,.,.,..
Will share more tomorrow. Thanks.
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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:13 PM Author: .,,.,.,,.,..,.,.,..
His position--which I also believe and have advocated for, but it was reassuring to hear it voiced from someone else in the field--is that it is essentially trivial that some species of dinosaurs (and not meaning birds, but popularly conceived dinosaurs--t. rex; triceratops; velociraptor, mosasaurus etc.) survived beyond the K-Pg boundary--"100 years, 100,000 years, 10 million years--all of it is likely." His position further is that the Earth is complex and a complex set of environments, the Chicxulub impact did not have uniform effects although we may model them as such for purposes of scientific understanding, life at a microscale can be remarkably adaptable, and so it is in a sense trivial for there to have been some area of the Earth where some dinosaur populations did survived and maintained a functioning ecosystem for xxxx years post impact, and we're potentially talking at the level of geologic timescales here, not just 10/100/1000 years. This doesn't mean, unfortunately, that we are destined or likely to encounter fossilization evidence, precisely because of the relatively microscale of such survivorship--we would need to be looking in precisely the right place and have the benefit of a specific period of fossilization surviving, which isn't at all guaranteed (although it is possible and we should keep looking). But just the idea of it is tantalizing, that e.g., a few million years after the impact, somewhere in the neighborhood of northern Montana, tyrannosaurs were still stalking the Earth, still straining their heads up to the night sky to join in a night chorus that would soon enough disappear, but not that one night.
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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: .,,.,.,,.,..,.,.,..
CRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: .,,.,.,,.,..,.,.,..
100%. In our dinosaur bed.
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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:34 PM Author: .,,.,.,,.,..,.,.,..
The significance comes in part from the context. For many years many "serious" paleontologists held a strict line about the K-Pg boundary being The End, full stop. I think part of their aggressiveness was in reaction to competing alternatives to the Chicxulub impact--they felt they needed to hold this line at ~66m years ago because any wavering could be read as supporting an alternative hypothesis. So the idea of no survival beyond the boundary became almost like a dogma in many paleontological circle, lest you be viewed as supporting some crackpot theory of out-of-order fossils or Deccan Traps or extinction by flowers or any other number of wacky ideas. So hearing a highly credible, globally published paleontologist say effectively "fuck yeah, there likely were dinosaurs alive and thriving say 60m years ago--somewhere at least" is refreshing and tantalizing—they survived afterward! And against that dogmatic context, it brings them at least a little closer to our modern day.
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Date: May 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
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This really isn’t very interesting. But happy for you that you are excited by it.
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