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5-10 years... "biglawyers" = lamplighters out of work

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excitant range
  07/18/25
God willing
concupiscible arrogant black woman step-uncle's house
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Inshallah
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Ungodly Dull Nursing Home
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excitant range
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nickel endimed
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What happens next though? Clearly we still have lawyers ...
Insecure frisky karate mad cow disease
  07/18/25
Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling m...
contagious tripping chapel
  07/18/25
What is the bulk of your business
swollen casino tank
  07/18/25
The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions...
contagious tripping chapel
  07/18/25
lol 180
Fishy cracking trust fund
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180
swollen casino tank
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crusty parlour
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prole squabbles, llp
Talented forum
  07/18/25
UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologi...
Hairraiser heaven
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excitant range
  07/18/25
how about we just have billionaires who "lord" ove...
violent big whorehouse toilet seat
  07/18/25
Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money ...
Multi-colored idiot
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excitant range
  07/18/25
I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impr...
Sadistic aromatic locale elastic band
  07/18/25
I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capa...
motley pocket flask
  07/18/25
It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there&rsqu...
seedy idea he suggested
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Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro ...
motley pocket flask
  07/18/25
It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucina...
seedy idea he suggested
  07/18/25
Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex lo...
seedy idea he suggested
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Coping fag hello
seedy idea he suggested
  07/18/25
You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to ...
motley pocket flask
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Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to...
racy clear center
  07/18/25
Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of s...
seedy idea he suggested
  07/19/25
Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argu...
Swashbuckling Slippery Library Nowag
  07/19/25
Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law produ...
Wang Hernandez
  07/19/25
OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants
Vengeful lodge
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Bateful ladyboy rehab
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I wish.
nighttime effete nibblets orchestra pit
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Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. ...
Onyx infuriating church building mad-dog skullcap
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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:16 AM
Author: excitant range



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:23 AM
Author: concupiscible arrogant black woman step-uncle's house

God willing

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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: excitant range

Inshallah

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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Ungodly Dull Nursing Home



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: excitant range



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: ruby chest-beating stag film liquid oxygen

nickel endimed

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Date: July 18th, 2025 6:33 AM
Author: Insecure frisky karate mad cow disease

What happens next though?

Clearly we still have lawyers and law firms, but perhaps the firm headcount drops to 10% the current headcount, and AI/software picks up the slack.

In that world, is the firm owned by just a handful of partners? Do law firms start to act like lean software companies? When does a U.S. firm IPO?

The counterpoint btw is that we just do a lot more work that was prohibitively expensive before. For example, I probably see 25+ cease and desist letters for every lawsuit, because letters cost $5-10k and lawsuits cost $100k to initiate and $5M+ to litigate through summary judgment. If cost of litigation drops [80%] people may file many more lawsuits. There could be an analogous dynamic on the corporate/business side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111194)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: contagious tripping chapel

Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling me virtually every day because their "friend" cheated them out of $300 or something. I tell them it doesn't make financial sense to pursue that and they start crying. There's a big untapped market out there for adjudicating squabbles among proles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111342)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: swollen casino tank

What is the bulk of your business

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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: contagious tripping chapel

The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions, construction disputes, zoning issues. Tons of lawsuits over exactly who owns some piece of land, often with a rotting mobile home sitting on it. Average client expenditure is about $3000, but that varies wildly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111405)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: Fishy cracking trust fund

lol 180

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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: swollen casino tank

180

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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: crusty parlour



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Talented forum

prole squabbles, llp

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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: Hairraiser heaven

UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologies)for the technologists or corporations replacing people with chatbots needs to be scrutinized and tracked ASAP to start determining the amount owed to the american citizenry

it's critical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111414)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: excitant range



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: violent big whorehouse toilet seat

how about we just have billionaires who "lord" over us and poors who you could say serve or maybe "serf" them and then anyone who doesn't go along with this gets to die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49113524)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: Multi-colored idiot

Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money as soon as you fucking can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111417)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: excitant range



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Sadistic aromatic locale elastic band

I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impressed. It helps, it certainly makes us more productive, but major reductions in headcount? Also, everyone keeps saying wait another year. But we’re a couple of years in and the capabilities (at least as applied to law) seem about the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111420)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: motley pocket flask

I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capabilities have skyrocketed over the past two years and there's no reason that wouldn't apply to law if it applies subjects that are at least as complex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111435)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: seedy idea he suggested

It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there’s no objectively correct answer unlike coding or whatever. Here’s a better explanation why law is harder to master for AI than coding.

Coding is governed by strict syntax and deterministic rules. A given input in a programming language will always produce the same output if the code is correct.

• Legal analysis involves ambiguous language, conflicting authorities, policy tradeoffs, and context-sensitive reasoning—skills that require human judgment and real-world understanding.

AI has been trained on massive open-source code repositories like GitHub, with clear labels, documentation, and results. This data is abundant, consistent, and high-quality.

• Legal data is more fragmented:

• Case law is often behind paywalls.

• Court decisions may be long, inconsistent, or involve complex procedural postures.

• Outcomes are not always “correct” or universally agreed upon.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111495)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: motley pocket flask

Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro can absolutely handle textual nuance and complex questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: seedy idea he suggested

It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucinations or misstatements of the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111526)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: seedy idea he suggested

Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex logic, unlike coding, there’s no single correct answer to the important questions that get litigated, the legal background is often contradictory and nuanced so you can’t just train it easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111634)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: seedy idea he suggested

Coping fag hello

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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: motley pocket flask

You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to generate responses when there isn't an objectively correct answer, there isn't much else to say. If anything law being subjective bullshit will make it easier to automate. When I deal with ai skeptics these days I mostly just wait for reality to prove them wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111715)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: racy clear center

Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to replace paralegals and juniors to have an enormous impact, which it pretty much already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49112807)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: seedy idea he suggested

Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of saying “I’m just wrong” with no explanation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49113912)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Slippery Library Nowag

Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argument to the answer it just gave you

(delete the em dash next time you retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49113914)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Wang Hernandez

Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law products are pretty shit for any complex practice.

No doubt that people who rely on making money through teams of 20 paralegals filling out forms and doing rote tasks will change a lot but automating such repetitive thoughtless tasks is entirely different than writing a compelling brief based on nuanced and complex facts in an uncertain area of law.

It most likely will be similar to how word processing eliminated a lot of support positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49114500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Vengeful lodge

OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111438)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 1:33 AM
Author: Bateful ladyboy rehab



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: nighttime effete nibblets orchestra pit

I wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111468)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: Onyx infuriating church building mad-dog skullcap

Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. Add on top that people using it are dumber. All AI is going to do is maybe help the few smart people left do stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id.#49111741)