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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
umber tanning salon quadroon
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Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
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The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
mind-boggling beta church building fanboi
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
...
galvanic idiotic athletic conference
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
stimulating orchestra pit doctorate
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
stimulating orchestra pit doctorate
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
but content tp
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Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
Jcm here
geriatric plaza
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
fantasy-prone national
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galvanic idiotic athletic conference
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Ruddy indecent new version office
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Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
galvanic idiotic athletic conference
  01/17/26
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Ruddy indecent new version office
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
lmao
galvanic idiotic athletic conference
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
...
galvanic idiotic athletic conference
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
fantasy-prone national
  01/18/26
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Marvelous Chestnut Parlor
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Marvelous Chestnut Parlor
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
galvanic idiotic athletic conference
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
galvanic idiotic athletic conference
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
galvanic idiotic athletic conference
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
galvanic idiotic athletic conference
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
ty
galvanic idiotic athletic conference
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
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adventurous stage masturbator
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
...
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  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
adventurous stage masturbator
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
I love you so much
adventurous stage masturbator
  01/17/26
...
razzle-dazzle persian school cafeteria
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
...
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  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
fantasy-prone national
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
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  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
fantasy-prone national
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
mind-boggling beta church building fanboi
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
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  01/18/26
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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: fantasy-prone national

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: umber tanning salon quadroon

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: mind-boggling beta church building fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: fantasy-prone national

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: mind-boggling beta church building fanboi

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: stimulating orchestra pit doctorate

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: stimulating orchestra pit doctorate

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: passionate bbw personal credit line

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal indigo genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: geriatric plaza

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Ruddy indecent new version office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Ruddy indecent new version office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: fantasy-prone national

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Marvelous Chestnut Parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Marvelous Chestnut Parlor

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: galvanic idiotic athletic conference

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: adventurous stage masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle persian school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: adventurous stage masturbator

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: adventurous stage masturbator

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle persian school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: odious house-broken whorehouse hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: fantasy-prone national

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: mind-boggling beta church building fanboi

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: fantasy-prone national

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: mind-boggling beta church building fanboi

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: fantasy-prone national

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: mind-boggling beta church building fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49598425)