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BBB screwing over professional gamblers is 180

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exhilarant trump supporter
  07/02/25
how does it do that?
arousing party of the first part business firm
  07/02/25
limits gambling loss offsets to 90%. so say you break even w...
exhilarant trump supporter
  07/02/25
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topaz step-uncle's house
  07/02/25
wow lol
arousing party of the first part business firm
  07/02/25
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topaz step-uncle's house
  07/02/25
This is actually very good
Adventurous mentally impaired home
  07/02/25
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obsidian school cafeteria
  07/04/25
LOL, fuck CSLG
mischievous box office
  07/02/25
wow
razzle-dazzle demanding knife mad cow disease
  07/02/25
Lol
obsidian school cafeteria
  07/04/25
or in this guy's case, you pay tx on $1 million!
mischievous box office
  07/04/25
all of those professional gamblers and poker players are com...
Iridescent roommate halford
  07/02/25
yeah this is like raising taxes on income from drug traffick...
cream swashbuckling stage
  07/02/25
Pros aren't using apps.
cracking toilet seat
  07/02/25
no shit. im agreeing that this wont hurt the pros but seems ...
cream swashbuckling stage
  07/02/25
You can't deduct losses at all unless you are a pro.
cracking toilet seat
  07/02/25
i get that youre running retard shtick bait now but we all k...
cream swashbuckling stage
  07/02/25
why did that even get added? seems totally random considerin...
Copper Vigorous Coldplay Fan
  07/02/25
someone in the senate added it last minute. no idea who, but...
exhilarant trump supporter
  07/02/25
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stimulating fat ankles
  07/02/25
This is 180. Get the pros out.
cracking toilet seat
  07/02/25
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flushed shitlib
  07/04/25
this guy: https://frontofficesports.com/mike-crapo-gambin...
mischievous box office
  07/04/25
Lol 180
obsidian school cafeteria
  07/04/25
Yeah, now if only they had done the same thing with upping t...
obsidian school cafeteria
  07/04/25
they should update the outdated jackpot threshold while they...
crystalline bawdyhouse
  07/02/25
The Kenny Amendment
Offensive range
  07/02/25
The Better Business Bureau are unelected tyrants
Multi-colored Meetinghouse Cumskin
  07/02/25
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drunken aromatic brethren
  07/02/25
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Sooty genital piercing
  07/05/25
I love how the party of limited government thinks it's 180 f...
Irate athletic conference indirect expression
  07/02/25
Just win your bets dude
Multi-colored Meetinghouse Cumskin
  07/02/25
correct -- pick winners at a 60% rate to break even and then...
vivacious keepsake machete
  07/02/25
? I you bet $100 and you lose $100, you don't need to pay...
Adventurous mentally impaired home
  07/03/25
I think this bill was the opening of war on tipping. I'm not...
Glittery water buffalo
  07/03/25
180
Clear mewling orchestra pit mental disorder
  07/03/25
I bet 90-95% of professional gamblers voted for Trump/Cons. ...
mischievous box office
  07/04/25
“If this goes through as it is written, I would basica...
flushed shitlib
  07/04/25
oh man...the poker ecosystem is unlikely to survive! What w...
Henna Seedy Location Dysfunction
  07/04/25
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exhilarant trump supporter
  07/04/25
we should crowdsource buying the syndication rights to Poker...
flushed shitlib
  07/04/25
I wonder why they picked 90%, seems so arbitrary. only thin...
mischievous box office
  07/04/25
180 but it should tax all wins from sports gambling apps at ...
curious thirsty temple milk
  07/04/25
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Excitant cordovan black woman piazza
  07/04/25
Tbh I'd be fine with leaving poker alone as long as we can p...
obsidian school cafeteria
  07/05/25
Trade or business expense for professional gamblers and is 1...
spectacular very tactful international law enforcement agency
  07/04/25
can an AI give legal advice?
mischievous box office
  07/04/25
online poker was fucked already and hardly anyone was making...
Painfully Honest Base
  07/04/25
How does the government know how much you won or lost playin...
Dark elastic band house
  07/04/25
https://x.com/PhilGalfond/status/1940198538493010316
Dark elastic band house
  07/04/25
cr it's obviously a big deal if you're a high volume poker p...
razzle-dazzle demanding knife mad cow disease
  07/05/25
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/big-...
Dark elastic band house
  07/04/25
https://x.com/Benny_Lapdance/status/1941168230984466799
mischievous box office
  07/04/25
if a lib did this xo would be screeching at the top of its l...
bat-shit-crazy histrionic shrine deer antler
  07/05/25
not allowing GC twats to create a Biff future is core conser...
flushed shitlib
  07/05/25


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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: exhilarant trump supporter



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: arousing party of the first part business firm

how does it do that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066387)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:09 PM
Author: exhilarant trump supporter

limits gambling loss offsets to 90%. so say you break even with 100k winnings and 100k losses. you have to pay tax on 10K income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066395)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: topaz step-uncle's house



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: arousing party of the first part business firm

wow lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066407)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: topaz step-uncle's house



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: Adventurous mentally impaired home

This is actually very good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066414)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 9:20 PM
Author: obsidian school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072917)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: mischievous box office

LOL, fuck CSLG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066455)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:31 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle demanding knife mad cow disease

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49067169)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 9:20 PM
Author: obsidian school cafeteria

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072916)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 11:38 PM
Author: mischievous box office

or in this guy's case, you pay tx on $1 million!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49073183)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:13 PM
Author: Iridescent roommate halford

all of those professional gamblers and poker players are complete tax frauds anyways

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066412)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 4:12 PM
Author: cream swashbuckling stage

yeah this is like raising taxes on income from drug trafficking.

this will probably fuck over draftkings addicts which imagine is the whole point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066858)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: cracking toilet seat

Pros aren't using apps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066987)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: cream swashbuckling stage

no shit. im agreeing that this wont hurt the pros but seems more targeting at the apps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49067122)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: cracking toilet seat

You can't deduct losses at all unless you are a pro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49067162)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:34 PM
Author: cream swashbuckling stage

i get that youre running retard shtick bait now but we all know youre actually a retard too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49067177)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:13 PM
Author: Copper Vigorous Coldplay Fan

why did that even get added? seems totally random considering how thoroughly gambling has Taken Over in the US recently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066413)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: exhilarant trump supporter

someone in the senate added it last minute. no idea who, but its 18000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066416)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: stimulating fat ankles



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: cracking toilet seat

This is 180. Get the pros out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066788)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: flushed shitlib



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Date: July 4th, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: mischievous box office

this guy:

https://frontofficesports.com/mike-crapo-gambing-big-beautiful-bill/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072539)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: obsidian school cafeteria

Lol 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072921)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 9:21 PM
Author: obsidian school cafeteria

Yeah, now if only they had done the same thing with upping the remittance tax and fully deregulating small arms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072919)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: crystalline bawdyhouse

they should update the outdated jackpot threshold while they are at it... it was set in the 1970s at $1200 but has not been updated since then to account for inflation.

https://www.casino.org/news/legislation-increase-tax-reporting-threshold-slot-machines-reintroduced/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066723)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Offensive range

The Kenny Amendment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066753)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 4:08 PM
Author: Multi-colored Meetinghouse Cumskin

The Better Business Bureau are unelected tyrants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066846)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: drunken aromatic brethren

.

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Date: July 5th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: Sooty genital piercing



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: Irate athletic conference indirect expression

I love how the party of limited government thinks it's 180 for the bill to tax bets that players never even won. What a fucking joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066874)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 4:20 PM
Author: Multi-colored Meetinghouse Cumskin

Just win your bets dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49066885)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: vivacious keepsake machete

correct -- pick winners at a 60% rate to break even and then the rest is easy profit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49067163)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:07 AM
Author: Adventurous mentally impaired home

?

I you bet $100 and you lose $100, you don't need to pay tax on top of the $100.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49068291)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:26 AM
Author: Glittery water buffalo

I think this bill was the opening of war on tipping. I'm not doing more than 10% once tax free. Hopefully it goes to 0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49068294)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: Clear mewling orchestra pit mental disorder

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49068909)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: mischievous box office

I bet 90-95% of professional gamblers voted for Trump/Cons. Amazing how they fucked them over.

Apparently it was one senator who slipped this provision in at the last minute, presumably before gambling lobbyists could spot it...

https://frontofficesports.com/mike-crapo-gambing-big-beautiful-bill/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072403)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: flushed shitlib

“If this goes through as it is written, I would basically just have to stop,” one professional gambler told FOS. “If I win $100 million and lose $99 million, that would be a great year, to have $1 million in profit! But with this bill, I would have to pay taxes on about $10 million in ‘gains’, which would turn my year into a $2 million loss.”

Poker player and author Maria Konnikova also walked through the math of how this would affect card players “If the purpose of this bill is to kill poker and stop people from playing, mission accomplished,” she told FOS. “The provision hurts you whether you have a winning year or a losing year—and the poker ecosystem is unlikely to survive the change.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072406)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Henna Seedy Location Dysfunction

oh man...the poker ecosystem is unlikely to survive! What will we do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072432)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: exhilarant trump supporter



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: flushed shitlib

we should crowdsource buying the syndication rights to Poker at Night and other shows like that. people will be watching that shit for decades to get a glimpse of what once was. like watching leave it to beaver

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072459)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: mischievous box office

I wonder why they picked 90%, seems so arbitrary. only thing I can think of is that it's targeted at slot players because dont most slot machines give 90% payback, so for slot patrons I guess this evens out and only fucks over poker players (perhaps inadvertently).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072458)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: curious thirsty temple milk

180 but it should tax all wins from sports gambling apps at 90%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072455)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Excitant cordovan black woman piazza



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:37 AM
Author: obsidian school cafeteria

Tbh I'd be fine with leaving poker alone as long as we can put draftkings out of business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49073762)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 5:52 PM
Author: spectacular very tactful international law enforcement agency

Trade or business expense for professional gamblers and is 100% deductible. This is legal advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072486)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: mischievous box office

can an AI give legal advice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072541)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Base

online poker was fucked already and hardly anyone was making money at it anymore.

seems like live cash players will continue underreporting. live tournaments are going to take a huge hit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072549)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: Dark elastic band house

How does the government know how much you won or lost playing poker in Vegas? Can't you just lie about losses?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072883)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: Dark elastic band house

https://x.com/PhilGalfond/status/1940198538493010316

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072961)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 9:40 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle demanding knife mad cow disease

cr it's obviously a big deal if you're a high volume poker player

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49073697)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: Dark elastic band house

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/big-beautiful-bill-potentially-very-bad-poker-players-us-1849192/index15.html

-No issue with this bill. Just means you need to collect 10% more losing horse betting slips!

-In reality it does suck, nothing good about, only bad. Mainly bad for high buyin tourney players and online players. Not really an issue for anyone else with some common sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49072977)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 11:38 PM
Author: mischievous box office

https://x.com/Benny_Lapdance/status/1941168230984466799

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49073181)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy histrionic shrine deer antler

if a lib did this xo would be screeching at the top of its lungs about nanny state bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49073707)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: flushed shitlib

not allowing GC twats to create a Biff future is core conservatism, you retarded shitlib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745336&forum_id=2...id.#49073722)