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Alasdair MacIntyre: “the new dark ages which are already upon us”

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me. “...
Drab Dingle Berry
  02/16/21
link plz
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue
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"construction of local forms of community within which ...
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this is a second Renaissance
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Harsh but fair
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After Virtue is 180
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he is 180
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That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs ...
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link? what books of his have you read?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue https://you...
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The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans
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Hard to make a distinction by the end.
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only of you're a drunk Roman
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Date: February 16th, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me.

“A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead often not recognizing fully what they were doing—was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition is correct, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41954317)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Obsidian internet-worthy cruise ship

link plz

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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#42183802)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 11:14 PM
Author: Jet-lagged ticket booth prole

"construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained"

move to the sticks and make good with everyone you can.

sounds good to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#43258556)



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Date: March 14th, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:14 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: tantric bisexual parlor black woman



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: dashing navy alpha turdskin



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:18 PM
Author: Lascivious native

*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*

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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:26 PM
Author: marvelous claret area

this is a second Renaissance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957423)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:28 PM
Author: Laughsome mad cow disease

just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory tower reading classical bullshit and seeing vandals and visigoths everywhere when he ventures outside the campus. charles taylor is tcr communitarian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957439)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:30 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry

Harsh but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957810)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: Passionate People Who Are Hurt Home



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: sexy stead depressive



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:52 PM
Author: Passionate People Who Are Hurt Home



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:40 PM
Author: Sepia odious set

After Virtue is 180

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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: Deep transparent school cafeteria travel guidebook

he is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957816)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:34 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry

That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs really drove home the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957825)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: Deep transparent school cafeteria travel guidebook

link?

what books of his have you read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957902)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

https://youtu.be/7_ssRpso9e8?t=2626

This little snippet really drives it home though and makes the leap from seemingly magical tech to us being in a full fledge culture extinction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41958239)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:44 PM
Author: domesticated violet dog poop french chef

The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957873)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:46 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry

Hard to make a distinction by the end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957881)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:37 PM
Author: irate glittery dilemma

only of you're a drunk Roman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41958115)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:38 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:39 PM
Author: harsh boiling water trump supporter

Lol @ premils

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41963758)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: February 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: Deep transparent school cafeteria travel guidebook



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Date: March 2nd, 2021 12:19 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: March 18th, 2021 12:02 AM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:27 PM
Author: vivacious market

quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient history...it's not the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#42183780)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: Obsidian internet-worthy cruise ship

It is always dangerous to draw too precise parallels between one historical period and another; and among the most misleading of such parallels are those which have been drawn between our own age in Europe and North America and the epoch in which the Roman empire declined into the Dark Ages. Nonetheless certain parallels there are. A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead–often not recognizing fully what they were doing–was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us. And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time, however, the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#43308041)



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Date: April 14th, 2021 10:16 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:15 AM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: April 30th, 2021 7:19 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: October 1st, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:42 AM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:48 AM
Author: Vigorous den

even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empire now have to admit that there is, by any description, no shared purpose. all the "good" things that can happen these days are things that would benefit you or your family. Get comparatively rich, get a better job, etc. No one even considers benefits to the community or "America". And sure as shit no one will accept personal detriment for America's improvement.

This has to be a clear sign that it's over. Im reminded of those videos of Army doods all saying "lol fuck the Army, my recruiter lied, this sucks", rating it as they would a job or college. Imagine asking enlisted men to consider their lives as contributing to America's glory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#43235671)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:53 AM
Author: spectacular psychic scourge upon the earth



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: Vigorous den

i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude got pulled out of line. "are you dominican?" they asked him

The dude got all worked up, "me?! Dominican as fuck! Pure blood. Dominican to my core!" etc

Tried to imagine someone being so insulted and prideful about being american, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#43235780)



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:12 PM
Author: Obsidian internet-worthy cruise ship

dominicans are unironically natsoc

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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:29 AM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry

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Date: October 11th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:45 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: March 3rd, 2022 7:03 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:32 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: Blathering Snowy Corner



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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:47 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: April 25th, 2022 1:27 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: June 3rd, 2023 6:48 PM
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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:03 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:30 PM
Author: lemon thirsty meetinghouse skinny woman

every age deals with this and it's the MONASTIC communities who carry the flame when the wheels come off.



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Date: November 7th, 2023 8:33 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Hideous Nibblets Patrolman



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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Date: July 9th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Drab Dingle Berry



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