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Trump getting rid of automatic engine shutoff in cars.

Lee Zeldin @epaleezeldin Start/stop technology: where yo...
electric philosopher-king ceo
  05/12/25
jesus christ liberals are fucking stupid
deranged national
  05/14/25
mount rushmore him now
talking friendly grandma school
  05/12/25
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electric philosopher-king ceo
  05/12/25
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buck-toothed lilac orchestra pit selfie
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provocative locus
  05/12/25
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Kink-friendly thriller indirect expression boltzmann
  05/12/25
Do people dislike this? Why? I've never had a car with it bu...
Histrionic multi-billionaire
  05/12/25
I don't care much if it's a rental but obviously starting yo...
Arousing quadroon
  05/12/25
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Passionate peach useless brakes
  05/12/25
Its one of the worst examples of bureaucratic brain rot. T...
electric philosopher-king ceo
  05/12/25
variable valve timing lets engines run in atkinson cycle at ...
glassy fragrant theater stage feces
  05/13/25
did you install a modern start/stop on a 70s car? or do you ...
very tactful plaza laser beams
  05/12/25
it isn't instant. you're trying to make a quick left turn, h...
talking friendly grandma school
  05/12/25
Fucks up the starter, and is pointless. I had a car that th...
Spectacular internal respiration theater
  05/12/25
Is that why starters keep going bad in Toyota Hybrids?
glassy fragrant theater stage feces
  05/13/25
Does anyone actually use this "feature"? My car d...
Arousing quadroon
  05/12/25
It's annoying as fuck b/c most cars don't allow you to set i...
hideous bateful address corn cake
  05/12/25
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Arousing quadroon
  05/12/25
its like the calibri font of car features
fishy black woman
  05/12/25
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aromatic tank hall
  05/12/25
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Kink-friendly thriller indirect expression boltzmann
  05/12/25
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Aquamarine Messiness Cruise Ship
  05/13/25
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Talented abode
  05/14/25
It's on by default and some cars make it a pain in the ass t...
aromatic tank hall
  05/12/25
This is one of my top 3 annoyances in daily life. A true 180...
aromatic tank hall
  05/12/25
If this actually one of the worst things in your life congra...
puce magical pit
  05/12/25
it was always a ridiculous concept
fishy black woman
  05/12/25
Why burn twelve cents of has when you could replace your sta...
Cerebral grizzly box office jap
  05/12/25
just remove the second little twink battery your car will au...
diverse lay
  05/12/25
Replacing it with a mod that makes every engine roll coal at...
Beta cuckoldry
  05/12/25
Not a single thing you or I do in our lifetimes will change ...
Spectacular internal respiration theater
  05/12/25
Renting a modern Volvo in Arizona only to discover at the fi...
Pea-brained sex offender pisswyrm
  05/12/25
i read that Volvo completed removed the option to disable it...
talking friendly grandma school
  05/12/25
*creeps slowly out into the intersection in order to keep ca...
Pea-brained sex offender pisswyrm
  05/12/25
China*
comical state son of senegal
  05/12/25
Vovlo is chinese bro
comical state son of senegal
  05/12/25
Don’t rent a Vulva bro. It’s a sure fire way to ...
Spectacular internal respiration theater
  05/12/25
How was Sixt otherwise?
Aquamarine Messiness Cruise Ship
  05/13/25
I’m a ride-or-die Hertzmo. Love the danger that they ...
Pea-brained sex offender pisswyrm
  05/13/25
Patriots are in control
Heady Parlor
  05/12/25
"For non-electric vehicles, fuel economy gains from thi...
snowy piazza death wish
  05/12/25
"idling" isnt just at stoplights though. its fucki...
fishy black woman
  05/12/25
fraud numbers to justify some stupid net zero nonsense
jade whorehouse jew
  05/13/25
do not disagree any idea where to get non fraud numbers?
snowy piazza death wish
  05/13/25
there really don't seem to be any. everything seems to be...
talking friendly grandma school
  05/13/25
20% seems fair. how % of your drive is normally at red light...
comical state son of senegal
  05/14/25
are you a nyc uber driver?
talking friendly grandma school
  05/14/25
wouldnt nyc be like 50% idling?
comical state son of senegal
  05/14/25
Most people are driving on freeways like 80% of the time.
Arousing quadroon
  05/14/25
ljl
comical state son of senegal
  05/14/25
ljl with Toyota hybrids you can't tell when the engine is st...
glassy fragrant theater stage feces
  05/13/25
*Mossad shutting off ur engine in the middle of the freeway*
walnut den
  05/13/25
*Libs continue turning off cars at stops in protest*
ivory hospital dog poop
  05/13/25
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electric philosopher-king ceo
  05/14/25
I thought I was the only person who hated that. Drives me ab...
Pontificating rambunctious karate
  05/14/25
lol @ getting mad that your car isnt contining to pollute wh...
comical state son of senegal
  05/14/25
It’s annoying as fuck when you hit a red light and it ...
Pontificating rambunctious karate
  05/14/25
i am not young but LOL at worrying your car is going to die ...
comical state son of senegal
  05/14/25
libs have shit for brains
snowy piazza death wish
  05/19/25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MSv1om_7DgU
Arousing quadroon
  05/14/25


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Date: May 12th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: electric philosopher-king ceo

Lee Zeldin

@epaleezeldin

Start/stop technology: where your car dies at every red light so companies get a climate participation trophy. EPA approved it, and everyone hates it, so we’re fixing it.

https://x.com/epaleezeldin/status/1921894994769575972

So you voted for global warming, rising sea levels and mass climate refugees? Are you sure about this, Trumpkins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923573)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: deranged national

jesus christ liberals are fucking stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929783)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: talking friendly grandma school

mount rushmore him now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923581)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: electric philosopher-king ceo

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923582)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: buck-toothed lilac orchestra pit selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923808)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: provocative locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924185)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Kink-friendly thriller indirect expression boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924264)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Histrionic multi-billionaire

Do people dislike this? Why? I've never had a car with it but I've had rentals and it doesnt bother me at all. The engine instantly restarts. Does the function degrade over time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923583)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Arousing quadroon

I don't care much if it's a rental but obviously starting your car engine hundreds of times a day for no reason is going to fuck it up over time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923588)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Passionate peach useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923590)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: electric philosopher-king ceo

Its one of the worst examples of bureaucratic brain rot. The energy costs of prematurely replacing starters, etc. is going to be way more than the energy saved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923594)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:31 PM
Author: glassy fragrant theater stage feces

variable valve timing lets engines run in atkinson cycle at startup so they require less toque to crank. Hybrids run in atkinson cycle full time, so what you may be feeling is the shift in valve timing after the crankshaft gets cranked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48928460)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: very tactful plaza laser beams

did you install a modern start/stop on a 70s car? or do you turn your 70s vehicle on and off at each stoplight? those are the only way your "obviously" retarded claim would be true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924192)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: talking friendly grandma school

it isn't instant. you're trying to make a quick left turn, hit the gas, and ooops the car has to restart itself.

also it is just there to game CAFE stats, directly raising the frontend cost of the car and prematurely wearing out the battery, starter and alternator to do it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923635)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: Spectacular internal respiration theater

Fucks up the starter, and is pointless.

I had a car that the AC would turn off when this happened too. You can disable it but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923813)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: glassy fragrant theater stage feces

Is that why starters keep going bad in Toyota Hybrids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48927473)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: Arousing quadroon

Does anyone actually use this "feature"? My car doesn't have it but every rental car does and I always have to disable it every time I start the car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923585)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: hideous bateful address corn cake

It's annoying as fuck b/c most cars don't allow you to set it once, you have to turn off the "feature" every time you start the car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923600)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Arousing quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923609)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: fishy black woman

its like the calibri font of car features

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923618)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: aromatic tank hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923621)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:47 PM
Author: Kink-friendly thriller indirect expression boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924271)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:12 PM
Author: Aquamarine Messiness Cruise Ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48927457)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: Talented abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929781)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: aromatic tank hall

It's on by default and some cars make it a pain in the ass to disable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923619)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: aromatic tank hall

This is one of my top 3 annoyances in daily life. A true 180 if he does this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923586)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: puce magical pit

If this actually one of the worst things in your life congrats on your chill life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923674)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: fishy black woman

it was always a ridiculous concept

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923599)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Cerebral grizzly box office jap

Why burn twelve cents of has when you could replace your starter 3x as often!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923663)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: diverse lay

just remove the second little twink battery your car will automatically recognize this and deactivate the system (not legal advice)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923669)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Beta cuckoldry

Replacing it with a mod that makes every engine roll coal at a red light.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923680)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: Spectacular internal respiration theater

Not a single thing you or I do in our lifetimes will change "climate change" so why fuck up our lives fixing imaginary problems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48923806)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: Pea-brained sex offender pisswyrm

Renting a modern Volvo in Arizona only to discover at the first stop light, which is very long, that your engine and AC are shut off. There is no physical button to disable the feature and the menus on the touchscreen are impenetrable with the checkbox to disable this intentionally buried by a Swedish engineer who has never seen a 90 degree day in his life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924102)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:09 PM
Author: talking friendly grandma school

i read that Volvo completed removed the option to disable it from newest models, that guy in Sweden caught on that you mistakenly felt you needed air conditioning. you now have to put it into manual at the light, or keep pressing the gas to keep it going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924116)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: Pea-brained sex offender pisswyrm

*creeps slowly out into the intersection in order to keep car in motion*

Being fatally T-boned to death would be preferable to dying of heat stroke. At least less sweaty and more dignified a way to go out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924173)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: comical state son of senegal

China*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924202)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: comical state son of senegal

Vovlo is chinese bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924200)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Spectacular internal respiration theater

Don’t rent a Vulva bro. It’s a sure fire way to herpes and the clap. Don’t ask how I know this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924305)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: Aquamarine Messiness Cruise Ship

How was Sixt otherwise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48927463)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Pea-brained sex offender pisswyrm

I’m a ride-or-die Hertzmo. Love the danger that they might negligently have you jailed.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusation-stealing-cars-settlement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48928444)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Heady Parlor

Patriots are in control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924180)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: snowy piazza death wish

"For non-electric vehicles, fuel economy gains from this technology are typically in the range of 3–10%, potentially as high as 12%.[3] In the United States, according to the Department of Energy, idling wastes more than 6 billion U.S. gallons (23 billion liters; 5.0 billion imperial gallons) of fuel per year.[4]"

"The amount of gasoline used annually in the US varies from year to year, but it is generally in the range of 120 to 140 billion gallons. This translates to an average of about 340 to 390 million gallons per day. "

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924251)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: fishy black woman

"idling" isnt just at stoplights though. its fucking retards fiddling with their phones while stopped in the right lane for 15 minutes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48924390)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:55 AM
Author: jade whorehouse jew

fraud numbers to justify some stupid net zero nonsense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48926158)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: snowy piazza death wish

do not disagree

any idea where to get non fraud numbers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48927454)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: talking friendly grandma school

there really don't seem to be any.

everything seems to be based on crazy studies that claim that people spend 20% of their time idling (https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/does-auto-start-stop-save-fuel/)

if that were true, maybe it would make some sense, but then you'd expect to just have it as a feature people could turn on and off and not some shit that is forced down people's throats.

even taking industry numbers at face value, grok thinks it would take about 3 years to save enough gas to make up for the higher purchase price, and if you include higher ongoing maintenance costs it would be an overall expense



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48927540)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: comical state son of senegal

20% seems fair. how % of your drive is normally at red lights or waiting your turn to turn, etc?

do you think you are driving forward 90% of the time? if so you are probably retarded or a trucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929748)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: talking friendly grandma school

are you a nyc uber driver?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929810)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: comical state son of senegal

wouldnt nyc be like 50% idling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929960)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: Arousing quadroon

Most people are driving on freeways like 80% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929953)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: comical state son of senegal

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929958)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: glassy fragrant theater stage feces

ljl with Toyota hybrids you can't tell when the engine is stopping or starting. You need an icon on the dashboard to tell you when it's EV mode

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48927478)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: walnut den

*Mossad shutting off ur engine in the middle of the freeway*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48928450)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: ivory hospital dog poop

*Libs continue turning off cars at stops in protest*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48928469)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: electric philosopher-king ceo

.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929771)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Pontificating rambunctious karate

I thought I was the only person who hated that. Drives me absolutely crazy. Why oh why do Democrats leave these 98/2 issues for Republicans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929770)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: comical state son of senegal

lol @ getting mad that your car isnt contining to pollute while you dont move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929784)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Pontificating rambunctious karate

It’s annoying as fuck when you hit a red light and it feels like the car died. I had a piece of shit car as a youth that died in traffic several times so maybe it’s low-level PTSD. Perhaps this is why oldmos hate it more, we remember when Cars were Bad and died randomly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929854)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: comical state son of senegal

i am not young but LOL at worrying your car is going to die at a traffic stop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929961)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 9:46 PM
Author: snowy piazza death wish

libs have shit for brains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48945959)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: Arousing quadroon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MSv1om_7DgU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2...id.#48929776)