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why are so many conservatives against selling federal lands?
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 7:17 AM Author: Appetizing henna area seems like a very lib thing to want to keep millions of acres of land under DC control (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952880) |
Date: May 22nd, 2025 7:17 AM Author: Floppy confused property brethren cause they know jews will buy it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952881) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 7:19 AM Author: Appetizing henna area worked in Vegas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952882) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2025 1:56 PM Author: electric hyperactive hospital Indians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#49040235) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:04 AM Author: arrogant talented home circlehead Federal lands should be protected for the future, for the ongoing benefit of our kids and our kids' kids, etc. Selling them off will lay waste to them for a short-term benefit--a little cash now--at the cost of losing them forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952954) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:30 AM Author: Appetizing henna area future is not assured, so why lock up all that wealth indefinitely? not to mention that we need to grow the economy a ton to pay off our debt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952982) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:33 AM Author: iridescent lay internal respiration Are you retarded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952992) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:35 AM Author: Appetizing henna area nice retort, shit for brains (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953000) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:07 AM Author: razzmatazz pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953385) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 12:09 PM Author: arrogant talented home circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953532) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:07 AM Author: razzmatazz pozpig This might be the stupidest thing I have ever read on xo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953388) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:21 AM Author: maize hairraiser jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953425) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 1:18 PM Author: Appetizing henna area another childless lib worried about the “future” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953817) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:32 AM Author: Ungodly Parlor Sweet Tailpipe Selling off the future of this country for a few shekels is kind of this administration’s thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953166) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:28 AM Author: Diverse headpube CR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953325) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:05 AM Author: Aphrodisiac House Multi-billionaire You cant trust anyone with the lands, but you can distrust the fed govt the least, crazy as that sounds. Their very incompetence is some meager insurance that not much will be despoiled (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952957) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:31 AM Author: Appetizing henna area why not 50-100 year leases then? leaving huge swaths of our country off limits is insane lib fear shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952983) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:35 AM Author: Charismatic Red Half-breed dude go outside. its all asphalt and strip malls and parking lots. if you care about the country you have to acknowledge that the private sector truly fucked up enormous amounts of land over the past 50 or so years. at least the government just leaves it alone for the most part. it will take enormous amounts of money and labor and energy to undo what "certain people" did over the last half century. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952999) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:37 AM Author: Appetizing henna area the West is largely a wasteland thats only good for what we can get out of the ground
meanwhile China and russia are raping the earth to get a leg up on us |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:12 AM Author: Charismatic Red Half-breed no thanks. well pass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953115) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:20 AM Author: electric hyperactive hospital Your people can't even build a hotel in Gaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953134) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:02 AM Author: Sick sepia haunted graveyard No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953247) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:25 AM Author: Dead knife reading party No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953318) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:33 AM Author: maize hairraiser jew dumbass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953332) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:53 AM Author: green shrine fuck this 5'6" jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953360) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:10 AM Author: Olive Abnormal Trailer Park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953398) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:33 AM Author: maize hairraiser jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952990) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:04 AM Author: Olive Abnormal Trailer Park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953086) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:21 AM Author: deranged peach fat ankles newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953137) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 12:10 PM Author: arrogant talented home circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953537) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:32 AM Author: maize hairraiser jew Because it’s great right now that you can hunt and camp on huge swaths of land in the west, and that it’s undeveloped, and if it’s sold and privatized it just becomes the shitty east/midwest where everything is fenced in “do not enter private property” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952989) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:34 AM Author: iridescent lay internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952993) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:35 AM Author: Appetizing henna area there will still be incredible amounts of national parks and other federal lands. 1.5 million acres is not a huge number, barely more than RI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48952996) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:38 AM Author: maize hairraiser jew 1.5 now 100.5 later once the dam is broken.
1.5 would do next to nothing for the deficit. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:59 AM Author: Appetizing henna area it’s not just about the deficit, it’s about national security. there’s tons of metals and minerals to be extracted too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953064) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:32 AM Author: maize hairraiser jew we dont want you faggots blowing off the rocky mountains to mine for minerals what dont you understand about this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953330) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2025 1:58 PM Author: Ultramarine razzle-dazzle sneaky criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#49040253) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2025 1:58 PM Author: Ultramarine razzle-dazzle sneaky criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#49040251) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:37 AM Author: Heady Orchid Chapel Macaca They need to start creating AI autonomous zones out west, where the AIs are responsible for writing the laws and regulations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953003) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 8:58 AM Author: Aphrodisiac House Multi-billionaire Gen Xer who used to listen to Rush Limbaugh on the way to high school in the 90s. I remember he'd mock PNW shitlibs for wanting to save some dumb little fucking bird, and Id lol along. Rush would play bird chirps and we'd all guffaw.
Now that Im 100 years old, I have realized my error. What faggot Boeing Factory were we trying to build? I much prefer the little birds.
Rush was wrong. "Conservatives" were wrong. I was wrong. SAVE | EVERY | BIRD |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:00 AM Author: Appetizing henna area gas yourself. we are about to enter the fight of our lives (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953070) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:01 AM Author: Aphrodisiac House Multi-billionaire Looks out at ruined America, a giant Costco parking lot filled with angry obese hijabis cutting you off to get to the hotdogs first.
"Well, we beat the chinks." |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:08 AM Author: Appetizing henna area you’re missing the forest for the trees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953101) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:07 AM Author: bossy multi-colored stain round eye And you're asking that we bulldoze the forest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953389) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:04 AM Author: seedy motley locale boltzmann What're you taking about this is like the only thing the fed gov does well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953090) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:08 AM Author: Appetizing henna area doing nothing instead of unleashing American wealth? yeah they are good at that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953099) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:41 AM Author: razzmatazz pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953195) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:47 AM Author: Olive Abnormal Trailer Park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953208) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:49 AM Author: maize hairraiser jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953212) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:08 AM Author: medicated hyperventilating gaping [Puts on NSAM tinfoil hat]
Does no one know THE ACTUAL ANSWER?
Con senators in the west like federal ownership of land because their “rancher” constituents lease land for cheap and don’t pay property tax on it. Same with oil and forest etc. also prevents shitlib state governments from regulating it. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:10 AM Author: Appetizing henna area expound on the cheap leases and tax thing. not at all clear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953112) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:15 AM Author: medicated hyperventilating gaping BLM leases below fair value of land
The federal land management agencies calculate the fee based on an arcane formula that favors the federal grazing permittee at the expense of the federal taxpayer. The formula was in the Public Rangelands Improvement (sic) Act of 1978 (PRIA). That statute expired in 1985, but on Valentines Day in 1986 President Reagan issued an executive order that made the formula live on. The PRIA formula considers current private land grazing lease rates (though obviously not that much, as we shall see), beef cattle prices, and the cost of livestock production, all indexes compiled by the USDA. Because these indexes as used in the grazing fee formula could result in the grazing fee approaching $0/AUM, a floor of $1.35/AUM was included to prevent such an acute embarrassment.
https://advocateswest.org/high-cost-of-cheap-grazing/
If you sold land to farmer they have to actually maintain it and pay tax on it vs sweet deal they get now. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:48 AM Author: Appetizing henna area sounds like a very strong argument for privatization (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953355) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:42 AM Author: razzmatazz pozpig So... youd prefer that the Chinese or faggot corporations own our land?
Retard. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:49 AM Author: Appetizing henna area I would ban all chink ownership of land in America and kick them out of our universities
but yes corporations are typically the ones to extract value from otherwise worthless land |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:52 AM Author: curious selfie university It’s something stupid libs do, like Chicago selling all their parking spaces to Qatar for 60 years and spending the money in 1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953217) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 9:54 AM Author: rebellious brilliant senate mother IDK seems like this is a west coast issue. Fed gov. seems to own virtually everything west of the rockies, where on the east coast it just seems like a few military bases here and there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_lands#/media/File:Map_of_all_U.S._Federal_Land.jpg
I've never once in my 30 years of living in the lowcountry every heard someone complain about the fed. gov. owning the Francis Marion forest |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:24 AM Author: Dead knife reading party We already have a real life test case to evaluate this. We don't have to guess. There has been massive consolidation of land in Idaho as it has been purchased by billionaires. After they buy it, they ban anyone from hiking or camping or hunting on the land (previous smaller owners didn't care and allowed it). And they aggressively enforce it. These are white American billionaires btw, not even foreigners
The land should stay publicly owned, as much of it as possible. Once it goes private we can never get it back. There isn't even any reason for it to go private. I get the impression that a lot of regular Joe advocates for the privatization of public lands are east coasters who have never been out west and experienced how great it is to be able to have access to these vast areas of undeveloped free territory
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:27 AM Author: Sick sepia haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953324) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:33 AM Author: maize hairraiser jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953331) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:16 AM Author: Ungodly Parlor Sweet Tailpipe Sellcucks, any response? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953417) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:39 AM Author: green shrine we could also tax the fuck out of billionaires upon their death and prevent the use of trusts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953462) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:49 AM Author: Ungodly Parlor Sweet Tailpipe Whoa whoa whoa jack. This sounds socialist and Palestinian and woke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953489) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 12:13 PM Author: arrogant talented home circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953545) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 12:15 PM Author: impertinent twinkling sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953554) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:30 AM Author: Diverse headpube Broad swaths of wilderness accessible to the public are one of the things that make America great. If we give that up, we become less than what we were. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953329) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:39 AM Author: maize hairraiser jew Sadly I think that OPs position will become more popular as the country becomes more minority and brown. Conservation is a white ppl thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953334) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:51 AM Author: Appetizing henna area I think libs like you are confusing gorgeous wilderness with empty as fuck worthless desert, which is far more common in the West (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953357) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:03 AM Author: Sick sepia haunted graveyard I believe you're the lib on this one. Go be a lib in Ukraine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953381) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 12:14 PM Author: arrogant talented home circlehead How much is this, in your words, "empty as fuck worthless desert" going to sell for? If it's so worthless and will sell for next to nothing, that's all the more reason to keep it. The government can, and does, and will continue to lease out mineral rights and grazing rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953550) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2025 1:55 PM Author: Stirring buck-toothed travel guidebook “We’re going to sell this empty as fuck worthless desert for a lot of money to build houses!”
He lisped |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 10:55 AM Author: Dead knife reading party Indeed
OP I don't know if you're just looking for an argument with this thread, or what. But you are way off base here. This is not even an 80/20 issue. What you are advocating is a categorically terrible idea |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 1:17 PM Author: Appetizing henna area well it’s in the big beautiful bill so if the senate passes it then we’ll see
I’m not convinced at all by the “omg it’s precious wilderness” arguments ITT
we have entered a very tumultuous time for global security and the Pearl clutching is very naive. we need access to all the minerals and metals that our country is blessed with. the same resources that drove the allied victory in WWII |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:21 AM Author: green shrine white ppl care about nature. non whites like 5'6" jews dont (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953424) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 1:17 PM Author: Appetizing henna area I guess your kids don’t care either
I know you’re bucktoothed peasant wife doesn’t |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 11:41 AM Author: sticky twinkling uncleanness Id rather leave the commons the commons. Similarly I'm torn on Greenland. If this was the US in 1920, absolutely buy it. However, who do I trust more in the future to control the area? 70% of the US under 18 is mud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953470) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 1:20 PM Author: Appetizing henna area Greenland is absolutely an international security issue and it can’t be left to those shitlib Danes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953822) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 12:07 PM Author: Beta Gold Hell Because the culturally lib ones (lots of them here) think hiking and camping is something good to do because they have no lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953530) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 1:21 PM Author: Appetizing henna area they cry over a few trees and some high desert like it’s all some gorgeous lush green forest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#48953829) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2025 1:38 PM Author: exhilarant sanctuary double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728727&forum_id=2...id.#49040176) |