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Here’s my biggest fear about why Trump will lose: systematic overcorrection

Pollsters got BTFO in 2016 and were significantly off in 202...
canary antidepressant drug jap
  10/16/24
Update?
Edmonton Oilers
  06/03/25
I’m a lib. This was a flame thread.
Pierbattista Pizzaballa
  06/03/25
Ur done here
Edmonton Oilers
  06/03/25
Kamala will become president this is not a mystery and th...
obsidian parlour patrolman
  10/16/24
blackpillers are diseased in the mind
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  10/16/24
the true blackpill is believing that "Kamala Harris&quo...
obsidian parlour patrolman
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the biden harris administration is the second worst administ...
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lol. Record market highs and record low unemployment aren&rs...
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High inflation outstripping most people's income gains. ...
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> High inflation outstripping most people's income gains....
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Yeah printing money had nothing to do with it. Are you a col...
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no i'm a retiree
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>enjoy being poor, i'll enjoy being richer and richer as ...
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And now?
Pierbattista Pizzaballa
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it's amazing that these same people saw trump win 2016 and s...
khaki insane mental disorder legend
  10/16/24
*beady eyes narrow*
cowardly frozen stain trust fund
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Probably cr
Clear multi-colored kitty
  10/16/24
where are we on this
Edmonton Oilers
  06/03/25
It’s a legitimate worry.
drab sneaky criminal
  10/16/24
Polling has truly become an art in terms of weighting.
canary antidepressant drug jap
  10/16/24
It’s just a worry, there are no reason to believe this...
Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks
  10/16/24
“The fact is that there are some Trump voters that jus...
canary antidepressant drug jap
  10/16/24
Tell me what they’re doing to fix that. I don’t ...
Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks
  10/16/24
The main innovation this year -- which Nate Cohn at NYT/Sien...
bronze lascivious chad house
  10/16/24
And they're showing a tied race with Trump as a favorite in ...
Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks
  10/16/24
Yeah man, the truth at this point is that there's likely goi...
bronze lascivious chad house
  10/16/24
The truth is there is going to be a fuckton of Kamala ballot...
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  10/16/24
I don't think an overcorrection is possible considering both...
topaz soul-stirring station hairy legs
  10/16/24
Aggregated, polls were very accurate 2016 and 2020.
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Great to hear https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/pr...
Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks
  10/16/24
No they weren’t.
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lol, no they were not
canary antidepressant drug jap
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pollsters are half retards, there's a reason the greatest po...
topaz soul-stirring station hairy legs
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the polling feels about right and is reflective of the lack ...
khaki insane mental disorder legend
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Early vote numbers aren’t great for determining electi...
Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks
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how comparable are the 2020 numbers? wasn't that a totally d...
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Same deal with mail ins. Requests are actually holding even ...
Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks
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have you seen any good articles looking at these numbers yet...
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You should watch Richard Baris's stream and follow Eric Daug...
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it's not that hard to identify pollsters that were the most ...
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Atlas which was the most accurate pollster in 2020 said Trum...
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these faggots cope is so blatant it's unreal. it's stunning ...
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Guided by nothing more than instinct, I would not be surpris...
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cr. as "unscientific" as it may be, there is so...
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If it just comes down to Trump having locked down all the Su...
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Good news for her considering her operation there is going s...
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cr. i just look for polls that have a large sample size a...
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Nonwhite vote is down 25% in early voting in Georgia so far.
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The voting group that is going to vote for Kamala at a rate ...
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it's very obvious what it comes down to: trump is going to w...
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no one is "supporting" kamala but there are plenty...
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exactly, this has been the only real issue since 5 minutes a...
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Mark Halperin predicting a Trump win will bring on "the...
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dems desperately need to re-think their positions on a fuck ...
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Party isn’t fucked because real votes are being replac...
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elaborate on this more
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https://substack.com/@neofeudalism/note/c-72851046
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i have seen lots of media about early voting in Detroit, Atl...
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XO says it’s 100 percent false to steal the election. ...
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if i were a dem planning to steal, i would 100% do it with v...
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It's agitprop. Turnout is slightly down compared to 2020 in ...
Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks
  10/16/24
There is no chance of "Kamala Harris" winning &quo...
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What are the main methods of large scale election fraud? Hav...
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Mail in voting, and numbers for that have collapsed.
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They can’t “correct” for 2016/2020 because...
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I watched the Halpern interview with Tucker on twitter. Halp...
Kink-friendly Lay
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Yeah, he expressed the same sentiment a few days ago and it ...
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OP is mostly CR but the other massive blind spot that MAGA a...
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Jesus, the systematic overcorrection act.
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I've posted this several times the past few weeks, but the &...
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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:02 AM
Author: canary antidepressant drug jap

Pollsters got BTFO in 2016 and were significantly off in 2020. So my main worry is that now all the pollsters have tried to correct for their previous fuckups but they’ve corrected too much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203406)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: Edmonton Oilers

Update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48982550)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: Pierbattista Pizzaballa

I’m a lib. This was a flame thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48983741)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Edmonton Oilers

Ur done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48984046)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:03 AM
Author: obsidian parlour patrolman

Kamala will become president

this is not a mystery and these months of huffing and puffing are simply ridiculous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203411)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

blackpillers are diseased in the mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203416)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:26 AM
Author: obsidian parlour patrolman

the true blackpill is believing that "Kamala Harris" can hurt you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203489)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:31 AM
Author: topaz soul-stirring station hairy legs

the biden harris administration is the second worst administration in my life time. Went through much harder times in the G.W. Bush years, but, Biden Harris has been an unmitigated disaster and this is the prevailing sentiment among most people I've talked to, which is probably a much more diverse sample size than any pollster is able to reach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203499)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:37 AM
Author: Flushed comical travel guidebook

lol. Record market highs and record low unemployment aren’t your cup of tea?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203512)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:46 AM
Author: Kink-friendly Lay

High inflation outstripping most people's income gains.

Strange abandonment of the 1st amendment, embracing censorship in the name of social good despite being the origin of a great deal of misinformation.

Divisive social engineering techniques, including the open border disaster. American school districts and municipalities are now burdened with the high costs of accommodating the migrants.

Open judicial warfares on people deemed the opposition. See Trump prosecutions in New York, delegitimizing the legal system and undermining confidence in neutrality of American courts.

Entanglement in Ukraine, including allowing it to happen in the first place, and pouring hundreds of billions into an endless quagmire while can't muster a decent response to hurricanes in the US alone.

The list goes on. Look, I'm well off, I'm substantially richer today than I was four years ago. But it doesn't mean I still don't think we've veered off into a damaging direction under the Biden administration, or rather, whoever is running the show in the name of Joe Biden. It's not just economics. It's more than the stock market.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203540)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:48 AM
Author: stirring maroon whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203545)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:11 AM
Author: Blue kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203629)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:13 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203636)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:30 AM
Author: fantasy-prone narrow-minded laser beams half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203692)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:40 AM
Author: sooty step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203720)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:55 AM
Author: khaki insane mental disorder legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203757)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:11 PM
Author: topaz soul-stirring station hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203809)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:22 PM
Author: Vivacious School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203853)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:39 PM
Author: shivering party of the first part foreskin

> High inflation outstripping most people's income gains.

this specific post-covid inflation is largely captured by corporate profits

i have no problem with this inflation because my investments are growing fast since all that inflation is being funneled into stock prices

sounds like ur poor

or, put another way, the elites have tricked you and your fellow proles into thinking it's the fault of the government that you can't buy as much as you used to, when it's really their fault

enjoy being poor, i'll enjoy being richer and richer as you keep blaming the wrong people while i know who's really to blame and am making my financial decisions accordingly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203911)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:41 PM
Author: Transparent stock car boiling water

Yeah printing money had nothing to do with it. Are you a college junior?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203917)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 1:24 PM
Author: shivering party of the first part foreskin

no i'm a retiree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48204103)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:44 PM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

>enjoy being poor, i'll enjoy being richer and richer as you keep blaming the wrong people while i know who's really to blame and am making my financial decisions accordingly

This is the common opinion of the "elite" that support Kamala and the juicy part is that's why she's going to lose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203927)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 1:03 PM
Author: Vivacious School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48204015)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 3:43 PM
Author: Talking Galvanic Partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48204681)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 1:03 PM
Author: Sadistic brindle trailer park background story



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Date: October 16th, 2024 1:07 PM
Author: dashing gas station pisswyrm



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:22 PM
Author: Smoky ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48206102)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Pierbattista Pizzaballa

And now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48983744)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:34 AM
Author: khaki insane mental disorder legend

it's amazing that these same people saw trump win 2016 and saw him exceed expectations in 2020, but will also cynically tell you that "nothing ever happens" and "abandon all hope, it's impossible."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203506)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: cowardly frozen stain trust fund

*beady eyes narrow*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203440)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:43 AM
Author: Clear multi-colored kitty

Probably cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203532)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: Edmonton Oilers

where are we on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48982551)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: drab sneaky criminal

It’s a legitimate worry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203422)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:08 AM
Author: canary antidepressant drug jap

Polling has truly become an art in terms of weighting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203427)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

It’s just a worry, there are no reason to believe this when polls are oversampling Dems by multiple points and the race STILL comes out close.

The fact is that there are some Trump voters that just are unreachable. Nothing you can do about that.

Meanwhile you can be certain Kamala voters are all accounted for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203437)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:11 AM
Author: canary antidepressant drug jap

“The fact is that there are some Trump voters that just are unreachable. Nothing you can do about that.”

This thread is literally about what they are doing about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203445)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:15 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

Tell me what they’re doing to fix that. I don’t see anyone saying things they’re practically doing.

Polls understated Trump in '16 & '20 largely because they understated his support among white voters.

Sure, they understated everyone, but whites really made the margin. Oh and btw, Trump is now gathering historic margins of black and Latino voters.

If that's the case again and there's no real error for non-whites, we're all going to be very, VERY wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203454)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: bronze lascivious chad house

The main innovation this year -- which Nate Cohn at NYT/Sienna says that he and over 2/3rds of pollsters are using, even though it was traditionally a hallmark of low-quality pollsters --is weighting samples by 2020 recalled vote, i.e., making sure they have the right number of people who say they voted for TRUMP/biden in 2020.

This technique has historically been disfavored because some people don't recall who they voted for (that may surprise you, but bear in mind the undecideds that everyone's trying to reach tend to be huge fucking morons), and there's been shown to be a tendency for ppl to say they voted for the winner even if they didn't. This technique thus carries with it a risk of undersampling *actual* biden-2020 voters and thus shortchanging harris (e.g., think of a dude who was really a TRUMP-TRUMP 2020-2024 voter being counted as a biden-TRUMP 2020-2024 flipper).

This effect might be mitigated by biden's unpopularity, but mostly pollsters are just dead-set on not undersampling maga again, even if they err in the opposite direction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203954)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:52 PM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

And they're showing a tied race with Trump as a favorite in the Electoral College. CR.

Now imagine the Trump voters that are unreachable.

https://x.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1845874626485793127

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203965)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:57 PM
Author: bronze lascivious chad house

Yeah man, the truth at this point is that there's likely going to be systemic polling error that goes in one direction or another, and the election won't end up that close (the 2 mostly likely outcomes vis-a-vis the 7 swing states are kamala winning all 7 and TRUMP winning all 7). When shit's true-blue tied in the polls like this, a historically very normal +/- 2.5% error paints the whole map one color.

The plausible case for an anti-TRUMP error (i.e., one that works in TRUMP's favor on election night) is obvious since it's happened twice before. But there's a plausible case for an anti-Harris error, too, since polling firms have done every fucking thing short of just adding +4 to the final TRUMP number to try to correct their past mistakes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203993)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: appetizing telephone black woman

The truth is there is going to be a fuckton of Kamala ballots with no down-ballot votes in several key cities. And that will carry the election.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48205644)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:28 AM
Author: topaz soul-stirring station hairy legs

I don't think an overcorrection is possible considering both in 2016 and 2020 they were off well beyond the margin of error. There's no way any autistic pollster will spot trump more than 5 points, and that likely isn't enough either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203491)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:39 AM
Author: Flushed comical travel guidebook

Aggregated, polls were very accurate 2016 and 2020.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203518)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:43 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

Great to hear

https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203530)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:32 PM
Author: bronze lascivious chad house

No they weren’t.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203884)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 1:18 PM
Author: canary antidepressant drug jap

lol, no they were not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48204071)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:26 AM
Author: topaz soul-stirring station hairy legs

pollsters are half retards, there's a reason the greatest political minds (e.g. Bill Clinton and whether liberals like it or not Trump) have an understanding of people and aren't myopic autists like the vast majority of pollsters. Stats paint a partial picture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203488)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:33 AM
Author: khaki insane mental disorder legend

the polling feels about right and is reflective of the lack of enthusiasm i see irl for kamala. my biggest worry is that people will get overconfident and not bother to vote, the same as clinton supporters in 2016.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203505)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:38 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

Early vote numbers aren’t great for determining election results, but they are a decent gauge of enthusiasm. From what we can tell from Georgia and Virginia, Trump counties (rural VA and GA) are way way up from 2016 & 2020 and blue counties (NoVa, Atlanta) are way way down.

Trump is winning the enthusiasm war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203515)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:39 AM
Author: gaped police squad base

how comparable are the 2020 numbers? wasn't that a totally different ballgame with covid rules?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203520)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:44 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

Same deal with mail ins. Requests are actually holding even with 2020 for Republicans in North Carolina while requests for Dems have collapsed by 30% or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203534)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:50 AM
Author: gaped police squad base

have you seen any good articles looking at these numbers yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203552)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:53 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

You should watch Richard Baris's stream and follow Eric Daughtery who does daily updates on this stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203558)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:54 AM
Author: gaped police squad base

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203560)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:43 AM
Author: khaki insane mental disorder legend

yeah. this is just providing objective evidence to something that was already observable. even driving through shitlib suburbs i'm seeing more trump signs than walz when 8 years ago you'd be a pariah for admitting your a trump voter in those neighborhoods.

the fact it's become socially acceptable to support trump is huge shift.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203531)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:14 PM
Author: topaz soul-stirring station hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203822)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:15 PM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203826)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:39 AM
Author: khaki insane mental disorder legend

it's not that hard to identify pollsters that were the most accurate in 2016 and 2020 and weigh their results more. idk why people still care so much about the aggregate when so many pollsters have proven to be unreliable. maybe the did overcorrect or maybe they're using the same bullshit the used before. either way they haven't proven that their methodology has predictive power. instead, look at the ones that have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203516)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:46 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

Atlas which was the most accurate pollster in 2020 said Trump wins the popular vote by 3 points and wins the EC and libs are now calling it “low quality” because they’re based out of Brazil LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203539)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:53 AM
Author: khaki insane mental disorder legend

these faggots cope is so blatant it's unreal. it's stunning how they dither from their prior convictions as soon it's convenient for them. "so we looked at the data" becomes "the data is flawed" the moment it conflicts with what they hope it says.

meanwhile i didn't see many cons saying the kamala's surge wasn't happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203556)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:01 AM
Author: Kink-friendly Lay

Guided by nothing more than instinct, I would not be surprised if exit polls on election eve announce a Trump pop vote victory. I'll mock Nate Silver and describe it as having 50/50% probability, meaning I'm not wrong either way ;)

In all seriousness, while a reasoned mind can't ignore the official data from the official polls showing a slight H lead or neck to neck, at the same time I also can't ignore most of the polling companies are run by the people with the same mindsets and biases as the idiots who created the Men for Kamala ad. And there's reading the tea leaves. The emergence of articles from D-leaning papers and publications talking about disagreements and tensions in the Harris campaign, tacitly admitting it's run by biased idiots who have no idea of an America outside college campuses. The emergence of articles in European presses featuring staid EU bureaucrats talking about how they can work with Donald Trump. You can sense the mood shifting in a way that the polls don't officially capture. There's an element of narrativism at play here and things are falling into place to make it happen.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203592)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:19 AM
Author: khaki insane mental disorder legend

cr.

as "unscientific" as it may be, there is some value is going with your gut. after all, all your gut instinct is your brain's analysis of a great aggregate of factors, many of which you don't even consciously realize. the same way you are probably right trust your senses that an area is dangerous even if it's not reflected in crime data.

if "trust the experts" always worked than trump would never have been president. just listen to all the "expert economists" talk about how great the economy is. sometimes it's better to just trust your eyes and experience. you can tell the economy sucks because you see people struggling to maintain a lifestyle that was obtainable in the past, regardless of how enthusiastically krugman points to GDP and the fraudmarket, or how many nobel prizes he is awarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203657)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:53 AM
Author: Vivacious School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203559)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:57 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

If it just comes down to Trump having locked down all the Sunbelt states other than NV and all he has to do is pick off a Rustbelt state, it's hard to imagine Trump loses.

BTW, he will likely win all of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203572)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:06 AM
Author: Vivacious School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203604)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:11 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

Good news for her considering her operation there is going so well

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/16/kamala-harris-pennsylvania-campaign-drama-00183844

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203626)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:24 AM
Author: Vivacious School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203669)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:08 AM
Author: khaki insane mental disorder legend

cr.

i just look for polls that have a large sample size and were accurate in the past. for example, in georgia uga said in 2020 that georgia was about even but leaning in favor of biden, which is exactly how the race shook out. and they're trump +3 right now.

i'm sure silver's model weighing polls based on quality has more rigor, but georgia doesn't "feel" even to me right now, +3 seems more in line with the attitudes i've seen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203612)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:24 AM
Author: Vivacious School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203668)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:26 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

Nonwhite vote is down 25% in early voting in Georgia so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203674)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:27 AM
Author: Vivacious School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203681)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:29 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

The voting group that is going to vote for Kamala at a rate of 85% minimum being down is not bad for Trump, even if he did expand his margin a little with them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203689)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: Vivacious School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203715)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:49 AM
Author: fantasy-prone narrow-minded laser beams half-breed

it's very obvious what it comes down to: trump is going to win overwhelmingly in terms of votes, the question is whether globohomo jews will rig it enough in the other direction. that's the only question. the polls are all fake. no one is supporting this brown hooker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203550)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:54 AM
Author: khaki insane mental disorder legend

no one is "supporting" kamala but there are plenty of people enthusiastically voting "not trump."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203562)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:54 AM
Author: sooty step-uncle's house

exactly, this has been the only real issue since 5 minutes after the coup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203563)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:59 AM
Author: fantasy-prone narrow-minded laser beams half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203579)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:15 AM
Author: Kink-friendly Lay

Would not be surprised if the narrative six months from now is how "everyone knew" Kamala was doomed from the moment of the coup and there really was nothing anyone could do so it wasn't her fault, etc cetera.

But it does bring up an interesting topic. What will the Ds do if T wins, and T likely can only win along with a trifecta, with R control of the house and senate. The hysteria will be both amusing and scary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203643)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:16 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

Mark Halperin predicting a Trump win will bring on "the greatest mental health crisis in American history"

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1846328577970655717

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203648)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: topaz soul-stirring station hairy legs

dems desperately need to re-think their positions on a fuck ton of issues -- but, Trump winning will likely have them double down on the DEI, tranny far left bullshit they've been leaning into forever.

As long as Obama/Pelosi are calling the shots -- party is fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203867)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: fantasy-prone narrow-minded laser beams half-breed

Party isn’t fucked because real votes are being replaced with ballot harvested votes of illegals (20 million in last four years alone) plus voter fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203985)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:25 AM
Author: Trip impressive bawdyhouse

elaborate on this more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203673)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:26 AM
Author: fantasy-prone narrow-minded laser beams half-breed

https://substack.com/@neofeudalism/note/c-72851046

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203679)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:59 AM
Author: Chestnut Stubborn Genital Piercing

i have seen lots of media about early voting in Detroit, Atlanta and Philly with insane turn-outs. Presumably all blue.

I have no idea if this is propaganda, outright falsehood, not significant, or if this is in fact a harbinger

If the latter, we could be in for bad news

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203582)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:06 AM
Author: canary antidepressant drug jap

XO says it’s 100 percent false to steal the election.

Time to start deleting poasts and gassing dirtbike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203608)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: Chestnut Stubborn Genital Piercing

if i were a dem planning to steal, i would 100% do it with very early voting.

why risk the prying eyes when you dump thousands of votes on election day? Just run up a big fake lead in october, when no one is looking or caring.

"Well Kamala begins Pennsylvania with a 15,000 lead...." and by that point the shenanigans are weeks old and evidence is cold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203619)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

It's agitprop. Turnout is slightly down compared to 2020 in Dem counties.

You have to understand that Dem mail ins in 2020 cut into their early vote numbers. In 2020, mail ins essentially was the early vote. Combined, we see significant decreases in both requests and early voting totals for Dems and massive increases for Reps.

Dems are banking on huge Election Day turnout and it's unclear that they're going to get it.

In fact, I'd argue there is little to no evidence they will. It's cope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203618)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: cowardly frozen stain trust fund

There is no chance of "Kamala Harris" winning "the presidency" and anyone who thinks this is utterly delusional

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203621)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:28 PM
Author: Bisexual theater voyeur

What are the main methods of large scale election fraud? Have we already seen any of it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203870)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:34 PM
Author: Know-it-all mad cow disease wagecucks

Mail in voting, and numbers for that have collapsed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48203890)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 5:10 PM
Author: Swashbuckling buff resort persian

They can’t “correct” for 2016/2020 because they still don’t know why the polls missed so badly. The most recent polling shows that what they’re really doing is just herding aggressively at near-tie outcomes in all the battleground states. A pollster with Harris +1 in PA will look fine if Trump wins by 2.

The main reason I think Trump is favored is the attitude of both campaigns. The Trump campaign seems to be focused on closing the deal, whereas the Harris campaign seems in meltdown mode. Lots of stories of internal panic, tons of leaks to the press reporting infighting, wild shifts in messaging (“Trump must release his cholesterol levels!” “Legalize weed and free crypto for black people!”), and a sudden flurry of interviews after avoiding the press entirely. Harris is flush with cash, so I assume she has daily polling in all the battlegrounds (much more current and accurate than the public polls) and it’s not looking good, combined with poor EV data (using much more sophisticated analytics than the garbage on Twitter). They’re not behaving like a winning campaign, or even a campaign in a 50/50 race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48205103)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 7:43 PM
Author: Kink-friendly Lay

I watched the Halpern interview with Tucker on twitter. Halpern commented that most public polling is done on the fast and cheap. The internal polls take a lot longer and are much more expensive as they have bigger sample sizes. They capture noises and trends more reliably than the quick snapshot of the day that is public polling. The campaigns rely on the internal polls. And what you're saying is correct, the attitudes of the campaigns at this point tells you what the internals are saying, which is probably that the tie or 1% Harris lead in the swing state public polls is probably more a 2% Trump lead in the internals.

It was a worthwhile interview. The comments about the polls alone forever changed how I look them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48205552)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 7:49 PM
Author: exciting field

Yeah, he expressed the same sentiment a few days ago and it was clipped to twitter. My opinion previously had always been that internal campaign polls were rah rah bullshit, but that doesn't really make sense. They have shitloads of money to pour into them and they need to rely on them. Pollsters aren't making bank off of them and definitely wouldn't if they put in the $$$ to do them in a thorough way. The pollsters are probably way lazier and phoning it in way more than people like to think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48205569)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 8:14 PM
Author: concupiscible friendly grandma

OP is mostly CR but the other massive blind spot that MAGA and nearly all of XO has is that Trump has a big problem with independents. It makes intuitive sense when one party has been in a defensive crouch since Election Night 2016, and the other has been constantly boasting about how great it is, specifically how great its leader is, and how much it desires to harm and imprison and kill its opponents in the first party, that anyone who says they aren’t with the second party is likely to think of the second party as the bigger risk than the wimpy first one. Add to that the fact that Trump is the first candidate ever to campaign for four straight years with all the advantages of incumbency including complete control of his entire party apparatus and the ability to control and divert all party resources to his preferred ends, which is part of the reason why Republicans have gained ground in registrations (along with committed Trump haters registering GOP to vote against him in the primary). All of this is before you get to the three massive negatives he carries for all independents per all polling for the last four years: 1) he’s the oldest nom ever, 2) Jan 6th, 3) 96 felony counts and 34 convictions. It’s a weird election cycle. A SHITTON of weird shit has already happened. It makes intuitive sense that a weird aberration would show up in polling that pollsters ie statistician liberal artists will be completely unequipped to detect and explain. The evidence we have seen for four years and that we are seeing in early results is that a big weirdness factor will be a massive flight of white college educateds away from Trump, but there are countervailing weird things like Trump potentially winning Latinos in several states. But the one thing we know for sure is that the polls are fucked and probably not fucked in the exact same way that 2020 was fucked, which was very different than the way that 2016 was fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48205640)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 8:14 PM
Author: cerise stag film

Jesus, the systematic overcorrection act.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48205641)



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Date: November 3rd, 2024 6:55 PM
Author: canary antidepressant drug jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48277350)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:21 PM
Author: Vengeful Misanthropic Shrine Organic Girlfriend

I've posted this several times the past few weeks, but the "polls" are complete bullshit.

At this point, only 1/1000 people are probably picking up to answer a fucking poll. And it's a really weird subset of people.

The pollsters know this - so they're doing all sorts of extrapolation and adjustments on their end. But the polls are really "models" at this point - and no one knows if they're right or not because so much has changed in the past 4-8 years and there isn't a lot of data points.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48206101)



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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:24 PM
Author: Smoky ratface

Serious q - has anyone here been "polled" this election? I know I haven't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2...id.#48206107)