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What would a civil war look like with two blue coasts and a red middle

Divided blue forces or a war on two fronts?
Brass Mentally Impaired Stage
  02/02/17
just walk outside bro
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america isnt 10 years into a civil war. thats just nyuug gob...
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it's meaningless to think about without accounting for the m...
Idiotic Market Candlestick Maker
  02/02/17
You'd lose all your forces on the coasts, but have a lot of ...
startled psychic
  02/02/17
How many faggot libs can fire a gun? 3 or 4 total?
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  02/02/17
It stands to reason that the nigs would fight for libs.
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  08/15/17
so like 5 or 6 then.
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keep in mind that you don't have more than 50 miles outside ...
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  02/02/17
control the roads and rails going to the city, wait 3 days f...
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But what about our wine and nuts?
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How could they tell? Many of those areas are already post-ap...
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  01/08/26
Red would win easily (assuming no foreign intervention).
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  08/15/17
A clean territorial split like that doesn't work today. It w...
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markets would crash, trade systems would crumble, the fall i...
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  08/15/17
(Guy who gets it)
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  01/08/26
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The U.S. has always been a lucky country, and our remarkably...
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"left no permanent harm" Sure, just 90+ years o...
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Exactly. Which is why a second civil war would be a race wa...
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sure dumb fuck, whitey will be completely unified. just as t...
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Fallout 3 at best at worst no life left
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Do red states know how to grow anything besides rice and sor...
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Blue states would have all the money and international suppo...
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Wouldn't really be coasts vs. middle America so much as it w...
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If their state is red, they will be driven by big cities. ...
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Most of the economic firepower is driven by white men who ar...
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Date: February 2nd, 2017 2:56 AM
Author: Brass Mentally Impaired Stage

Divided blue forces or a war on two fronts?

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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: hateful fortuitous meteor nursing home

just walk outside bro

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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:29 PM
Author: hateful fortuitous meteor nursing home

america isnt 10 years into a civil war. thats just nyuug gobbledygook

https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3702611&mc=230&forum_id=2#33999807

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49570779)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:37 PM
Author: hateful fortuitous meteor nursing home

It's absolutely fine.

Date: January 29th, 2017 9:49 PM

Author: lawman8

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508473&forum_id=2#32494554

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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:14 PM
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Date: January 7th, 2026 10:02 PM
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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:37 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:28 AM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:44 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:54 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:12 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:28 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:42 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:55 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:25 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:49 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:01 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:56 PM
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Date: January 11th, 2026 7:07 PM
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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:35 PM
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Date: January 13th, 2026 6:41 PM
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:56 PM
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Date: January 14th, 2026 10:07 PM
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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:01 PM
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Date: January 19th, 2026 6:54 PM
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Date: January 21st, 2026 5:39 PM
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Date: January 25th, 2026 6:41 PM
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Date: January 26th, 2026 5:39 PM
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Date: January 26th, 2026 6:34 PM
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Date: January 26th, 2026 7:52 PM
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Date: January 29th, 2026 5:41 PM
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Date: February 1st, 2026 8:40 PM
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:56 PM
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Date: February 3rd, 2026 7:09 PM
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Date: February 4th, 2026 7:45 PM
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Date: February 5th, 2026 6:59 PM
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:50 PM
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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:52 PM
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Date: February 2nd, 2017 2:57 AM
Author: Idiotic Market Candlestick Maker

it's meaningless to think about without accounting for the military.

assuming the military is not a participant, it's an effete coast bloodbath.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#32525137)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 2:58 AM
Author: startled psychic

You'd lose all your forces on the coasts, but have a lot of unmanned equipment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#32525138)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 3:01 AM
Author: Odious amber station roast beef

How many faggot libs can fire a gun? 3 or 4 total?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#32525155)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:47 PM
Author: Comical box office

It stands to reason that the nigs would fight for libs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33995607)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:48 PM
Author: Concupiscible casino

so like 5 or 6 then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33995609)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 3:03 AM
Author: Violent Queen Of The Night

keep in mind that you don't have more than 50 miles outside la, sf, portland, or seattle to find very conservative people who would fight against those in the urban centers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#32525166)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 3:06 AM
Author: Wild crawly associate halford

control the roads and rails going to the city, wait 3 days for cities to run out of food, watch lib areas degenerate into cannibalism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#32525185)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 3:07 AM
Author: startled psychic

But what about our wine and nuts?

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Date: February 2nd, 2017 5:37 AM
Author: fantasy-prone soul-stirring tanning salon mad-dog skullcap



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:50 PM
Author: slate chapel messiness

and avocado toast - don't forget the avocado toast

and lube and medical supplies for IBS and HIV

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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:53 PM
Author: buff aromatic plaza son of senegal



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 5:28 AM
Author: Ebony area

How could they tell? Many of those areas are already post-apocalyptic hellscapes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#32525593)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: very tactful dragon

"control the roads and rails going to the city"

Nigger, you do know that people in Blue cities own guns with lots of bullets, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49574056)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 5:37 AM
Author: Heady avocado old irish cottage

Red would win easily (assuming no foreign intervention).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#32525601)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:32 PM
Author: French office puppy



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:35 PM
Author: Low-t bisexual philosopher-king

A clean territorial split like that doesn't work today. It worked in 1860 because Southern whites were overwhelmingly on board with the secession effort. Right now every state has at least a 25% minority supporting the other side and in most states it's more like a 40% minority or even larger. It would just be an absolute chaotic bloodbath everywhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33995496)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:37 PM
Author: Painfully honest affirmative action abode

markets would crash, trade systems would crumble, the fall into anarchy wouldn't take long at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33995512)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: very tactful dragon

(Guy who gets it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49574054)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: Concupiscible casino

yeah, it would look a lot more like practically every other civil war; a lot of bloodshed and terrorism across the entire nation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33995623)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:52 PM
Author: Low-t bisexual philosopher-king

The U.S. has always been a lucky country, and our remarkably smooth civil war is a chief example of that. It was bloody, but lasted just 4 years, permanently settled the question the war began over, and left no permanent harm. Most countries are not nearly as lucky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33995644)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: frozen cracking space

interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33996103)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: very tactful dragon

"left no permanent harm"

Sure, just 90+ years of domestic terrorism and government sanctioned segregation, but no big deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49574058)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:03 PM
Author: fragrant pontificating point

Exactly. Which is why a second civil war would be a race war. Black/Brown/Asian vs. White will be the new Mason Dixon line...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33996221)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:39 PM
Author: Yellow Vigorous Pisswyrm Chad

sure dumb fuck, whitey will be completely unified. just as they are now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49571178)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:47 PM
Author: hateful fortuitous meteor nursing home

SHOTS FIRED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49571202)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: very tactful dragon

I guess the other guy is running "Dumb as Fuck" shctick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49574059)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:38 PM
Author: motley milky dingle berry national

Fallout 3 at best

at worst no life left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33995521)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:46 PM
Author: cobalt heaven mood

Cauldron Battle

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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:00 PM
Author: Dark Garrison

grits all of a sudden the most popular dish in LA/Seattle/Boston, why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33996201)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:04 PM
Author: frozen cracking space

lmao good luck getting even the simplest merger or acquisition done in red America. Do those cretins even know what a poison pill is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#33996232)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:46 PM
Author: gaped principal's office background story

Do red states know how to grow anything besides rice and sorghum?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49571200)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: gaped principal's office background story

Blue states would have all the money and international support. They'd also have all the doctors, engineers and other skilled trades. Lazy stupid shitcons would either get hungry and defect or die from untreated diseases/lack of medicine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49571191)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 10:17 PM
Author: sepia brunch dopamine

To be fair,

Oh look -- an absolutely retarded hot take from our resident bort Jewish shitlib schizophrenic. Wow, I'm shocked!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2...id.#49574388)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:03 PM
Author: glittery pocket flask

Wouldn't really be coasts vs. middle America so much as it would be rural + suburban vs. urban. If anything, cities could have their supplies cut off and then they'd fall apart because of internal chaos driven by their demographic mix.

Big money power would probably welcome the fall of mega dysfunctional blue city governments. The idea that "the coasts" are filled with these left leaning Men of Action is plainly retarded. All of these types of men are right leaning, regardless of how their state votes. And even then, if their state is blue, how much of that is driven by demographic realities in a few big cities?

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Date: January 8th, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: very tactful dragon

If their state is red, they will be driven by big cities.

What cities do you think represent the economic engine in Mississippi? It ain't Coffeeville.

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Date: January 11th, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: glittery pocket flask

Most of the economic firepower is driven by white men who are much further to the right than the rest of the population. Overall economic prowess is dependent on people who are conservative more generally.

Places like NYC are blue because of demographics - and these demographics will chimp out when their supply lines are cut off.

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Date: January 11th, 2026 7:22 PM
Author: thirsty university roommate

who cares

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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:58 PM
Author: plum slimy immigrant reading party

It'd look a lot like that video of the MAGA guy throwing haymakers at protesters.

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Date: February 4th, 2026 7:46 PM
Author: Splenetic free-loading house pervert

You ever see disco fries eat oreos

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