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MIT has student assassinated after publishing paper on AI (WSJ)

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mit-says-it-no-longer-stands-beh...
Ruddy diverse mother meetinghouse
  05/17/25
AI can’t make novel discoveries. That’s the less...
Cracking Yapping Yarmulke Mad Cow Disease
  05/17/25
Yes. Absolutely. And if it DOES make one, then it will be er...
Jet crusty sandwich newt
  05/17/25
It already has in Chess
at-the-ready institution
  05/17/25
what did it figure out in chess?
impressive jet-lagged trailer park
  05/17/25
It has made them in literally every field imaginable and the...
Jet crusty sandwich newt
  05/17/25
Can you copy and paste this? I'm not signing up for this tr...
Jet crusty sandwich newt
  05/17/25
https://archive.ph/I32HC
Ruddy diverse mother meetinghouse
  05/17/25
They didn't reject it because it was WRONG, they rejected it...
Jet crusty sandwich newt
  05/17/25
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Ruddy diverse mother meetinghouse
  05/17/25
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Flirting effete site gaming laptop
  05/17/25
What’s fr?
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  05/17/25
Sounds like the student made the whole thing up and deserved...
mewling state
  05/17/25
How is that different from any other paper?
Jet crusty sandwich newt
  05/17/25
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Big theater
  05/17/25
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Flirting effete site gaming laptop
  05/17/25
Reading between the lines here, it kind of looks like he mig...
Razzle-dazzle spruce cuck home
  05/17/25
Not necessarily. "Can't verify the provenance" is...
Jet crusty sandwich newt
  05/17/25
(dude who made up the whole paper)
gaped associate
  05/17/25
Again, how is this different from any other paper? If you a...
Jet crusty sandwich newt
  05/17/25
...
Fishy bearded nursing home tattoo
  05/17/25
Bro you got caught it’s ok
gaped associate
  05/17/25
products of Project OBAMA (Orangutan-Baboon-Ape Microarray A...
Ungodly Opaque Double Fault Philosopher-king
  05/17/25
Was it your paper?
mewling state
  05/17/25
Here's the full paper before it gets pulled down: https://ar...
Crimson violent halford
  05/17/25
So he used graph theory to make some dumb production node di...
Jet crusty sandwich newt
  05/17/25
He didn't actually use graph theory. He reported that his su...
Crimson violent halford
  05/18/25
Lol I read this paper and thought it was real 180 this gu...
apoplectic parlor
  05/17/25
so the paper is fake?
Hairraiser Puce Rigpig
  05/17/25
Yeah apparently he just straight up made it all up johnsmeye...
apoplectic parlor
  05/17/25
It's 100% fraud. The data was fabricated and the AI tool use...
Sickened telephone prole
  05/17/25
...
Hairraiser Puce Rigpig
  05/17/25
He literally got a Nobel prize winner to endorse it so it&rs...
Jet crusty sandwich newt
  05/17/25
based
Cobalt Supple Electric Furnace Personal Credit Line
  05/18/25
Impressive level of psychosis. Needs to be a poaster.
Crimson violent halford
  05/17/25
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  05/18/25


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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: Ruddy diverse mother meetinghouse

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mit-says-it-no-longer-stands-behind-students-ai-research-paper-11434092

https://archive.ph/I32HC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938836)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:15 AM
Author: Cracking Yapping Yarmulke Mad Cow Disease

AI can’t make novel discoveries. That’s the lesson here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938850)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:20 AM
Author: Jet crusty sandwich newt

Yes. Absolutely. And if it DOES make one, then it will be erased and deeply concerned intellectuals will pretend it never happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938856)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: at-the-ready institution

It already has in Chess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939296)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:41 PM
Author: impressive jet-lagged trailer park

what did it figure out in chess?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939393)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 10:35 PM
Author: Jet crusty sandwich newt

It has made them in literally every field imaginable and the stuff you can find publicly is the tip of the iceberg, especially when you consider humans just use AI and take credit for it. lol at "chess" being an example.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48940468)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Jet crusty sandwich newt

Can you copy and paste this? I'm not signing up for this trash, but I want to see how deeply concerned they are about AI and about the possibility someone might use it to ghostwrite a heresy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938854)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: Ruddy diverse mother meetinghouse

https://archive.ph/I32HC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938867)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Jet crusty sandwich newt

They didn't reject it because it was WRONG, they rejected it because the apelet didn't spend his late nights hunched over LaTeX with an empty fruit pile, and then go through some tribal peer review grooming ritual where Dr. Kratz interrogates him about RIGOR and the dangers of metaphor to ensure no heterodoxies slip through the cracks. Fr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938866)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Ruddy diverse mother meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938869)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: Flirting effete site gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939709)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: canary keepsake machete travel guidebook

What’s fr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939749)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:34 AM
Author: mewling state

Sounds like the student made the whole thing up and deserved to get got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938875)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:35 AM
Author: Jet crusty sandwich newt

How is that different from any other paper?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938877)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:55 AM
Author: Big theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938903)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: Flirting effete site gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939711)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:39 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle spruce cuck home

Reading between the lines here, it kind of looks like he might have made up the existence of the lab?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938880)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: Jet crusty sandwich newt

Not necessarily. "Can't verify the provenance" is just how they talk when something slips past the peer-vetting troglodyte net and might be real--but isn't sanctified by the priesthood. It doesn't even say that its talking about data provenance. It could be where the sentence structure came from. Since they can't verify it's ape prose, they are saying who knows if it came from this primate and not another one or some chimp-machine combination. Which obviously, who the hell cares, but thats how these people think. They want to ensure someone suffered to get their accolades like they did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938888)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: gaped associate

(dude who made up the whole paper)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938910)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Jet crusty sandwich newt

Again, how is this different from any other paper? If you are talking about the data part, then who cares? LOL at believing in social sciences "data" and "experiment design". It's all made up somewhere along the chain whether its by AI or a group of chimps. If the lab was invented, then congrats--hes now on equal footing with every think thank thats ever fabricated an anecdotal "case study" to retroengineer a conclusion. If it was simulated by an AI that's called modeling. If the experiment didn't happen at all, welcome to 90% of the entire discipline of "economics" fr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48938918)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: Fishy bearded nursing home tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939316)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: gaped associate

Bro you got caught it’s ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939586)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: Ungodly Opaque Double Fault Philosopher-king

products of Project OBAMA (Orangutan-Baboon-Ape Microarray Analysis), a heavily-funded but highly secretive post-WWII science initiative that ran for nearly 30 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939309)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: mewling state

Was it your paper?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939577)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: Crimson violent halford

Here's the full paper before it gets pulled down: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.17866

It's hard to think of a US corporate materials science lab with that many people, particularly one that's so diverse. Who's spending $250M/year+ on materials R&D? The project, if real, would have taken a lot of time and work and an unusual degree of cooperation from the "lab." The paper does not seem implausible, and if a fabrication it's superficially impressive, though I just skimmed it. The paper itself does not seem like it could have been written by an LLM. FWIW, the "AI" being used in the lab is described as a set of graph neural networks, which makes sense in the context.

The author is not listed in the MIT alumni directory, so he must have left very quickly after starting in 2023. His LinkedIn says he was there for 1 year and 10 months. Grad students are included in the directory after two terms. I don't know when he would have time to undertake this extensive a study. It reads like something that might actually have been undertaken by a consultant or internally. Perhaps his crime was at least partly plagiarism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939295)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 6:33 PM
Author: Jet crusty sandwich newt

So he used graph theory to make some dumb production node diagram and dats too AI for these boomers because it involved python and tensor flow? What a joke they made it sound like he used an llm to ghostwrite the whole thing. Probably should have they wouldn’t have caught him. LLM would have generated passable data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48940062)



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Date: May 18th, 2025 12:31 PM
Author: Crimson violent halford

He didn't actually use graph theory. He reported that his supposed materials lab did. I didn't see that he specifically reported that they used Tensorflow. It's on the way out anyway, but maybe it would be reasonable to say they used it a couple of years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48941311)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: apoplectic parlor

Lol I read this paper and thought it was real

180 this guy is based whoever he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939299)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: Hairraiser Puce Rigpig

so the paper is fake?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939317)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: apoplectic parlor

Yeah apparently he just straight up made it all up johnsmeyer style

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939580)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: Sickened telephone prole

It's 100% fraud. The data was fabricated and the AI tool used in the study he describes never existed. He even tried to make a fake website with Corning to back up his fraud, but they stopped him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939343)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: Hairraiser Puce Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939348)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 6:34 PM
Author: Jet crusty sandwich newt

He literally got a Nobel prize winner to endorse it so it’s a 180 bit and shows Econ is all made up fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48940068)



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Date: May 18th, 2025 6:22 AM
Author: Cobalt Supple Electric Furnace Personal Credit Line

based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48940788)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: Crimson violent halford

Impressive level of psychosis. Needs to be a poaster.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48939690)



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Date: May 18th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: canary keepsake machete travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2...id.#48941521)