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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Awkward whorehouse
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
racy kitty newt
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Hot Excitant Azn Area
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
racy kitty newt
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Hot Excitant Azn Area
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
gay gunner legend
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
misanthropic exhilarant telephone
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
racy kitty newt
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Outnumbered Citrine Ratface
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
180 meetinghouse
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
motley theater stage
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
racy kitty newt
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
motley theater stage
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
motley theater stage
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
racy kitty newt
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
orange vigorous queen of the night school
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
racy kitty newt
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
racy kitty newt
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
racy kitty newt
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
big-titted amber gay wizard
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Anal big useless brakes old irish cottage
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Outnumbered Citrine Ratface
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
racy kitty newt
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Awkward whorehouse
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
racy kitty newt
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
heady clear circlehead
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Saffron soul-stirring stage
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Histrionic doobsian half-breed corner
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Awkward whorehouse
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
zippy location
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
racy kitty newt
  06/26/25
...
vibrant coldplay fan garrison
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
aggressive ivory community account
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Costumed zombie-like mediation
  06/26/25
...
Vivacious Corn Cake Codepig
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Hilarious theater
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Snowy Angry Base Fortuitous Meteor
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Provocative Green Church Building Cuckoldry
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
racy kitty newt
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Snowy Angry Base Fortuitous Meteor
  06/27/25
How was penn?
racy kitty newt
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Outnumbered Citrine Ratface
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
180 meetinghouse
  06/27/25
...
racy kitty newt
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Aquamarine Startled Piazza
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Snowy Angry Base Fortuitous Meteor
  06/27/25
...
underhanded crimson hominid theatre
  06/27/25
...
racy kitty newt
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Provocative Green Church Building Cuckoldry
  06/27/25
How is STB?
180 meetinghouse
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Swashbuckling space
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Outnumbered Citrine Ratface
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
aggressive ivory community account
  06/27/25
...
bistre galvanic dilemma
  06/27/25
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Outnumbered Citrine Ratface
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Awkward whorehouse

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Hot Excitant Azn Area

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Hot Excitant Azn Area

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: gay gunner legend

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: misanthropic exhilarant telephone

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: racy kitty newt

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Outnumbered Citrine Ratface

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: 180 meetinghouse

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: motley theater stage

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: motley theater stage

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: motley theater stage

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: orange vigorous queen of the night school

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: big-titted amber gay wizard

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Anal big useless brakes old irish cottage

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Outnumbered Citrine Ratface

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Awkward whorehouse

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: heady clear circlehead

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Saffron soul-stirring stage

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Histrionic doobsian half-breed corner

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Awkward whorehouse

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: zippy location

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: racy kitty newt

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: vibrant coldplay fan garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: aggressive ivory community account

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Costumed zombie-like mediation

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Vivacious Corn Cake Codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Hilarious theater

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Snowy Angry Base Fortuitous Meteor

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Provocative Green Church Building Cuckoldry

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: racy kitty newt

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Snowy Angry Base Fortuitous Meteor

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: racy kitty newt

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Outnumbered Citrine Ratface

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: 180 meetinghouse

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: racy kitty newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Aquamarine Startled Piazza

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Snowy Angry Base Fortuitous Meteor

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: underhanded crimson hominid theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: racy kitty newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Provocative Green Church Building Cuckoldry

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: 180 meetinghouse

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Swashbuckling space

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Outnumbered Citrine Ratface

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: aggressive ivory community account

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: bistre galvanic dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Outnumbered Citrine Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053817)