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Spent 100's of hours studying the 1996 Everest disaster. Taking q's

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Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
should I go to Appalachian Climbing School
Pontificating Cracking Point
  04/19/26
search ur heart
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
How did you get to 100s? I watched the movie, a doc and read...
amber bbw bawdyhouse
  04/19/26
if you're looking for additional materials you can study the...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
You did not answer my question at all. I am not looking for...
amber bbw bawdyhouse
  04/20/26
No you asked how to get to 100s of hours
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
I had two questions.
amber bbw bawdyhouse
  04/20/26
Don't talk to me like im some floosy LLM.
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
lmao didnt even know krakauer is jewish every single time
Frum Indecent Lodge
  04/19/26
wtf holy shit. he's half!
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/19/26
Fun fact. "Mount Everest" is named after a man nam...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
I read both krakauer's book and the MAF rebuttal book by bou...
copper double fault
  04/19/26
Lopsang is the villain, but he was likely paid by Pittman. T...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
It really is crazy just how fucking dangerous high-altitude ...
copper double fault
  04/19/26
cr yet 1/2 of xo tough guys who played some college ball ...
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/19/26
Tbf, a good portion of the danger is clearly not avertable t...
copper double fault
  04/19/26
yeah it's fucking nuts and another crazy part is the other m...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
Yeah. As a kid I did NOLS and AAI and wanted to be a bigtim...
copper double fault
  04/19/26
pretty baller man i'm just a dweeb
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
this is evan39-esque: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/19/26
You spent hundreds of hours to learn this?
amber bbw bawdyhouse
  04/20/26
Why are you MAF at my encyclopedic knowledge of everest
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
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Flushed range coffee pot
  04/20/26
I read into the climb many years. Realized at that point tha...
Medicated hilarious parlour
  04/19/26
We can say [CONTENT AUTO REDACTED] here.
copper double fault
  04/19/26
he's a failed outdoorsmin who became a writer, what's there ...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
He just happened to be on that expedition
amber bbw bawdyhouse
  04/20/26
Should I watch Dallas Buyers Club?
amethyst famous landscape painting
  04/19/26
search ur big gay heart
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
it's amazing that krakauer happened to be there for this -- ...
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/19/26
some theories say that his presence, and the presence of Pit...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
explain pls
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/19/26
The theory is the presence of the journalist from Outside ma...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
IIRC, almost every third-party account (not krakauer or bouk...
copper double fault
  04/19/26
then you have to explain why Lopsang didn't set the fixed ro...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
"Rowell criticized Krakauer's account, citing numerous ...
Frum Indecent Lodge
  04/19/26
Boukreev could and did literally climb mount everest without...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
wtf does him not using oxygen have to do with other people d...
Frum Indecent Lodge
  04/19/26
Even if capable of operating without bottled oxygen, you can...
copper double fault
  04/19/26
Some people say that without supplemental O's, Boukreev had ...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
but it says he deliberately went down ahead of the clients, ...
Frum Indecent Lodge
  04/19/26
yeah and the corroborating witness is dead. im not saying he...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
maybe if the clients didn't want to die they shouldn't have ...
Frum Indecent Lodge
  04/19/26
not that exactly no
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
My (very rusty) recollection after reading both books is tha...
copper double fault
  04/19/26
yeah i think he was probably selfish and scott had to work a...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
Nah he didn't go down for help, he went down before any of t...
stubborn set mood
  04/19/26
yeah and i mean that kinda makes sense, but also not really....
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
How hard is climbing Everest really? Wasn’t one of the...
Poppy razzle menage
  04/19/26
the mousy japanese lady had summited the tallest mountains o...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
she was 90lbs, prob irresponsible regardless of experience w...
Poppy razzle menage
  04/20/26
You can say that about all the clients. Doug sucked. Beck wa...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
at least they were men and could, with more training, have g...
Poppy razzle menage
  04/20/26
This is retarded
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
(Guy who thinks its good women are allowed in the infantry)
Poppy razzle menage
  04/20/26
After watching that stuff does it make you want to climb any...
flirting crusty stead
  04/19/26
Messner makes me want to climb something more than the evere...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
! Well put, ty. And I feel that too
flirting crusty stead
  04/20/26
imagine being near the top of Everest and suddenly an earthq...
sepia marvelous ceo national
  04/19/26
Dying at base camp would suck
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
Yes I just can't imagine the fear you would experience
sepia marvelous ceo national
  04/19/26
I've looked into dying in an avalanche and it definitely suc...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/19/26
Asphyxiation is a terrible way to go, until suddenly it&rsqu...
amber bbw bawdyhouse
  04/20/26
Yeah exactly. Chronic oxygen deprivation and hypothermia see...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
Is it safer today? It's it (the safety, the experience) even...
Brindle piazza dopamine
  04/19/26
In-house at a corp, I worked with a dude who told everyone t...
flirting crusty stead
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sepia marvelous ceo national
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Reading into thin air really convinced me that I was never g...
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Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
180
Galvanic saffron weed whacker
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wonderful post-moniker synergy. yeah this dude wore 3 piece...
flirting crusty stead
  04/20/26
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Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
Thoughts on Mike Tracy trashing Krakauer? https://jonkra...
Poppy razzle menage
  04/20/26
Tracy is literally a shitttigator lmao
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
The guy has a weird hate-infatuation with krakauer IIRC. On...
copper double fault
  04/20/26
If you listen to him for more than 2 minutes you agree with ...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
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copper double fault
  04/20/26
Scott Fischer and Rob Hall are both gorgeous men
flirting crusty stead
  04/20/26
https://images.mubicdn.net/images/cast_member/151819/cache-5...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
tyty here are 2 of my favorite clips from gasherbrum h...
flirting crusty stead
  04/20/26
180 cr friend 180
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/21/26
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flirting crusty stead
  04/21/26
are there bars on Mount Everest like at ski resorts?
exhilarant associate place of business
  04/20/26
Not on the mountain but in the villages nearby
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
Lmao this takes 7 to 9 weeks to do? I always thought this wa...
Kink-friendly talented institution
  04/20/26
Yes you have to progressively acclimatize and end up climbin...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
lmao what total flame
Frum Indecent Lodge
  04/20/26
the peak is the height that some commercial airlines fly at
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
i thought that planes all avoid the himalayas so things won'...
Frum Indecent Lodge
  04/20/26
the peak of everest is 30,000 ft
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
What’s your LSAT score? Obviously planes avoid things ...
amber bbw bawdyhouse
  04/21/26
Same wtf... thought it was like a day
emerald curious kitty cat casino
  04/20/26
there's a guy working on remote acclimatization technology
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/20/26
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&mc=88&a...
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/20/26
lol wtf fr fr I thought it took like 2 or 3 days to climb, ...
exhilarant associate place of business
  04/21/26
Everest is flame. You fly or drive over halfway to the top. ...
Pontificating Cracking Point
  04/21/26
Why can't a helicopter just drop someone off at the summit? ...
exhilarant associate place of business
  04/21/26
Helicopters can only go as high as approximately the ice fal...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/21/26
Yes the Everest climb is not the longest climb you can do. D...
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/21/26
Kili is the most prominent peak in the world I think. There&...
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/21/26
have you ever been to Everest?
exhilarant associate place of business
  04/21/26
nope. been to KTM only in nepal. would like to do the EBC tr...
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/21/26
dat too much walkin!
exhilarant associate place of business
  04/21/26
she'd love multiple 1 day hikes if we could stay in decent h...
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/21/26
Yeah I think that's right
Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant
  04/21/26
Dumb post. The second half is 99.99% of the effort.
Milky adventurous death wish
  04/21/26
wow ty pumo
Pontificating Cracking Point
  04/21/26
lol DBG
exhilarant associate place of business
  04/21/26
I’ve done it 3 times. You’re wrong.
Kink-friendly talented institution
  04/21/26


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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828160)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: Pontificating Cracking Point

should I go to Appalachian Climbing School

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828202)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

search ur heart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828205)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:32 PM
Author: amber bbw bawdyhouse

How did you get to 100s? I watched the movie, a doc and read Into Thin Air in a week. What else did you learn in the extra 90+ hours?

My main take away was there’s no fucking way I’m climbing Everest. It’s just pure misery and you’re so fucked when you get to the top you can’t wait to go back down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828212)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

if you're looking for additional materials you can study the books written by other climbers, several docs besides the PBS one, listen to interviews and podcasts, the argument between krakauer and tracy on youtube, etc. You can also study the history of the mountain, read into messner etc, and you've got to read and reread/rewatch everything multiple times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828239)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:01 AM
Author: amber bbw bawdyhouse

You did not answer my question at all. I am not looking for more. I am asking what else I would learn that I didn’t learn in 10 hours of study.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828902)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:36 AM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

No you asked how to get to 100s of hours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828965)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 2:45 PM
Author: amber bbw bawdyhouse

I had two questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829617)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 2:51 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Don't talk to me like im some floosy LLM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829630)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: Frum Indecent Lodge

lmao didnt even know krakauer is jewish

every single time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828241)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

wtf holy shit. he's half!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828258)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Fun fact. "Mount Everest" is named after a man named whose name is pronounced "Eve-er-est."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828288)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: copper double fault

I read both krakauer's book and the MAF rebuttal book by boukreev. But it's been like 25 years.

Who are the heroes, villains? What moral lessons do you draw from it? What unique insights do you have?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828244)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Lopsang is the villain, but he was likely paid by Pittman. The moral lesson is don't be a softie like Rob. I don't have anything unique to say really

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828275)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:12 PM
Author: copper double fault

It really is crazy just how fucking dangerous high-altitude mountaineering is. The story for like everyone who's a professional climber (sherpa or honkey) who survived everest 1996 is "later died on [other mountain]."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828347)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:15 PM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

cr

yet 1/2 of xo tough guys who played some college ball seem to genuinely think that they could easily summit everest; 1/2 of it is schtick, but 1/2 of it is genuinely retarded xo tough guys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828351)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:19 PM
Author: copper double fault

Tbf, a good portion of the danger is clearly not avertable through enhanced skills or natural talent (and I'm including physiological tolerance for high-altitude exertion as "natural talent," even though HAPE is incredibly random and strikes super-experienced climbers).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828360)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:16 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

yeah it's fucking nuts and another crazy part is the other major peaks like K2 and Annapurna, while essentially as tall, are significantly worse odds in terms of getting hit with an avalanche or falling the fuck off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828355)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:21 PM
Author: copper double fault

Yeah. As a kid I did NOLS and AAI and wanted to be a bigtime climber, but looking back now...

maybe Black people are right on this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828366)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:25 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

pretty baller man i'm just a dweeb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828376)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:25 PM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

this is evan39-esque:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/05/21/1100363030/meet-the-cool-62-year-old-kenyan-on-first-all-black-team-to-summit-everest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828377)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:02 AM
Author: amber bbw bawdyhouse

You spent hundreds of hours to learn this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828905)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Why are you MAF at my encyclopedic knowledge of everest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828969)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 10:19 PM
Author: Flushed range coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830893)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:41 PM
Author: Medicated hilarious parlour

I read into the climb many years. Realized at that point that Americans like Krakauer are scum. They always hang out at the periphery of misery and looking to benefit. He actually made millions from his own book where he basically described that he's a faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828248)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: copper double fault

We can say [CONTENT AUTO REDACTED] here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828251)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:52 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

he's a failed outdoorsmin who became a writer, what's there to be mad about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828295)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:02 AM
Author: amber bbw bawdyhouse

He just happened to be on that expedition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828906)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: amethyst famous landscape painting

Should I watch Dallas Buyers Club?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828253)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

search ur big gay heart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828289)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

it's amazing that krakauer happened to be there for this -- and live to tell the tale. talk about god running the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828265)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

some theories say that his presence, and the presence of Pittman which was a reaction the Krakauer's last minute team change, was the cause of the event.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828281)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:54 PM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

explain pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828297)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

The theory is the presence of the journalist from Outside magazine (Krakauer) caused more than the usual competition between Adventure Consultants (Rob's team) and Mountain Madness (Scott's team). Krakuer's magazine was paying Rob with ad space ($55k worth; they only paid $10k in cash), and those ads would include things like the % of clients that summitted. Krakuer was also writing about the commercialization of Everest in general, so there was motivation to get as many climbers to the top as possible. But whether that influenced the late summit push (after the fixed rope delay of 2+ hours), the decision to ignore the pre-arranged turn-around time, and Rob's decision to escort Doug, isn't certain.

Maybe more directly, Pittman -- the weakest climber who the lead sherpa had to essentially drag to the top with a rope, causing him not to place the aforementioned fixed ropes and delaying both teams -- was added to Mountain Madness's team at the last minute as their journalist after Krakauer and Outside left the MM team for the AC team.

So taken together the presence of journalists, especially JK, can reasonably be seen to have changed the motivations and dynamics of the teams, and may have been a contributing cause to the tragedy, rather than a coincidence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828329)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:15 PM
Author: copper double fault

IIRC, almost every third-party account (not krakauer or boukreev, although you could include boukreev in this) says that krakauer was bizarrely hard on sandy pittman, who no one else seems to think played any kind of noteworthily deleterious role. She was short-roped for an hour tops, and she was a paying client; she's probably a stronger climber than krakauer, but krakauer benefitted from summitting way before her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828352)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:20 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

then you have to explain why Lopsang didn't set the fixed ropes above the south summit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828364)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Frum Indecent Lodge

"Rowell criticized Krakauer's account, citing numerous inconsistencies in his narrative, and observed that Krakauer had been asleep in his tent while Boukreev was rescuing other climbers. Rowell argued that not only were Boukreev's actions heroic but his judgment was also prescient: “[Boukreev] foresaw problems with clients nearing camp, noted five other guides on the peak [Everest], and positioned himself to be rested and hydrated enough to respond to an emergency. His heroism was not a fluke."[5]"

lmfao at this literal kike sleeping in his tent while the heroic chad is out there saving lives, and then publishing a book where he jewishly sneers at and nitpicks the heroic dude

fucking amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828270)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Boukreev could and did literally climb mount everest without oxygen and it was his professional responsibility to guide and save people. Some people say his selfishness in not using oxygen caused more harm than he later salvaged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828285)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: Frum Indecent Lodge

wtf does him not using oxygen have to do with other people dying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828312)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:10 PM
Author: copper double fault

Even if capable of operating without bottled oxygen, you can operate better with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828345)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:10 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Some people say that without supplemental O's, Boukreev had to descend in front of the clients at more rapid pace, rather than assist them in the descent. Had he been in the mix with the clients, he may have saved more lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828346)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:15 PM
Author: Frum Indecent Lodge

but it says he deliberately went down ahead of the clients, by himself, so he could get help

sounds like the "supplemental oxygen" complaint is just literal jews trying to unjustly pin blame on the only chad who was actually saving lives instead of jewishly sitting around "taking notes" so he could jewishly publish a book criticizing everyone else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828350)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:21 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

yeah and the corroborating witness is dead. im not saying he didn't save people, but the idea that a guide is better off at camp than guiding clients is a bit retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828367)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:24 PM
Author: Frum Indecent Lodge

maybe if the clients didn't want to die they shouldn't have gone up to the top of mount everest

did anyone ever think of that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828375)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:32 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

not that exactly no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828387)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:26 PM
Author: copper double fault

My (very rusty) recollection after reading both books is that krakauer is indeed a disingenuous little piece of shit, but his criticisms of boukreev are probably correct. Literally not a single person, dead or alive, doubted that he was the strongest climber on the mountain, but his abilities as a guide specifically were questionable. Boukreev says that Fischer's displeasure with his performance was customer-service/BizDev-based, but he's fucking dead so who's to know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828378)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

yeah i think he was probably selfish and scott had to work around that fact so they came up with compromises that didn't really make sense for a guide but he wanted him up there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828389)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:22 PM
Author: stubborn set mood

Nah he didn't go down for help, he went down before any of the issues began. He went back out to help later after hearing people were in trouble.

I don't think Bookreev did anything particularly wrong though. He was against using oxygen because he thought it was dangerous to rely on it. You're extra fucked if you run out of it etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828369)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

yeah and i mean that kinda makes sense, but also not really. if you have oxygen you are better off than without. you might run out of oxygen and you're fucked immediately, which is not the case without it, but you can definitely stay up longer with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828393)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: Poppy razzle menage

How hard is climbing Everest really? Wasn’t one of the people on the expedition a mousy small Japanese lady?

Can you just shell out a bunch of money and be spoon fed the climb. Can the typical American male train for a couple months then be good to go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828391)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:36 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

the mousy japanese lady had summited the tallest mountains on the 6 other continents before the everest expedition in 1996. in general yes you are mostly spoon fed with fixed ropes, ladders, etc, but its still difficult and you have to be in pretty good shape, and you also generally have to test your body in high altitude on other mountains first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828395)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:18 AM
Author: Poppy razzle menage

she was 90lbs, prob irresponsible regardless of experience when you consider they have to carry a bunch of shit

Namba died from exhaustion and exposure. Jon Krakauer's book, Into Thin Air, describes the anguish of Neal Beidleman, who felt guilty that he was unable to do anything more to save Namba. Boukreev's book, The Climb, expressed profound regret at her lonely death, saying that she was just a little 90-pound woman and that someone should have dragged her back to camp so she could at least die among her companions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828938)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 2:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

You can say that about all the clients. Doug sucked. Beck wasn't great. I dont get singling her out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829601)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 5:41 PM
Author: Poppy razzle menage

at least they were men and could, with more training, have gotten to a higher level of competency.

its like the military, to what degree are these 90lb women LARPing as serious climbers just because they had sherpas pushing them the entire way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830141)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 6:31 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

This is retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830247)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 11:15 PM
Author: Poppy razzle menage

(Guy who thinks its good women are allowed in the infantry)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831053)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:51 PM
Author: flirting crusty stead

After watching that stuff does it make you want to climb anything or no never?

I thought this TV documentary on Reinhold Messner was one of the 180 things Werner Herzog directed. Lots of great footage. Also to the point above - all the sherpas and mountaineers died - one of the big moments is when Reinhold talks about his brother dying

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Glow_of_the_Mountains

(German: Gasherbrum – Der leuchtende Berg)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828430)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:55 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Messner makes me want to climb something more than the everest stuff or honnold or anyone else. His whole point is he wanted to discover himself and it just so happens everest helped him do that. I dont have any desire to climb for the accomplishment, not that I could either way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828440)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:11 AM
Author: flirting crusty stead

! Well put, ty. And I feel that too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828926)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:59 PM
Author: sepia marvelous ceo national

imagine being near the top of Everest and suddenly an earthquake hits you and then the avalanches come

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Mount_Everest_avalanches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828448)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 11:00 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Dying at base camp would suck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828454)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 11:01 PM
Author: sepia marvelous ceo national

Yes

I just can't imagine the fear you would experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828458)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 11:03 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

I've looked into dying in an avalanche and it definitely sucks but goes fast at the end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828466)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 2:47 PM
Author: amber bbw bawdyhouse

Asphyxiation is a terrible way to go, until suddenly it’s a fine way to die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829619)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 2:49 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Yeah exactly. Chronic oxygen deprivation and hypothermia seem more chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829625)



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Date: April 19th, 2026 11:13 PM
Author: Brindle piazza dopamine

Is it safer today? It's it (the safety, the experience) even worse than 30 years ago given the huge crowds waiting in line to summit? That aspect of it looks miserable.

I've thought about going for one of the relatively easier very high altitude climbs line Cho Oyu.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828479)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:15 AM
Author: flirting crusty stead

In-house at a corp, I worked with a dude who told everyone that his hobby was mountain climbing and he would pay up to do all those. His desktop background was climbing pics. Lean wiry guy, seemed pretty good shape, maybe mid 50s. Anyway, even after doing a lot of other tall mountains, he had some kind of altitude sickness climbing Everest, turned blue, maybe had a collapsed lung, got airlifted down, and had to stay in a Nepalese hospital for a month. Was already lean and he lost maybe 25% of his bodyweight. He was out of work for a few months - and when he came back, he was like yeah OK I'm done with climbing now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828934)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:23 AM
Author: sepia marvelous ceo national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828943)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 2:46 PM
Author: amber bbw bawdyhouse

Reading into thin air really convinced me that I was never going to climb Everest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829618)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 8:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830637)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 5:55 PM
Author: Galvanic saffron weed whacker

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830161)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 8:25 PM
Author: flirting crusty stead

wonderful post-moniker synergy. yeah this dude wore 3 piece suits to the office, was a very smooth older man, and would manage to drop in conversation "oh yes, i'm going back to nepal next month for another mountain climb." great shtick, but he lived it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830598)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 8:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830638)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:29 AM
Author: Poppy razzle menage

Thoughts on Mike Tracy trashing Krakauer?

https://jonkrakauer.medium.com/the-youtuber-obsessed-with-trashing-my-book-chapter-two-8dc163beaba1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828953)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 9:37 AM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Tracy is literally a shitttigator lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49828966)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 2:29 PM
Author: copper double fault

The guy has a weird hate-infatuation with krakauer IIRC. Only ever reports from the very specific anti-krakauer perspective.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829592)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

If you listen to him for more than 2 minutes you agree with krakauer that he has the invective and derision of a divorce attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829605)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 6:38 PM
Author: copper double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830266)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: flirting crusty stead

Scott Fischer and Rob Hall are both gorgeous men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830685)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

https://images.mubicdn.net/images/cast_member/151819/cache-554903-1591694059/image-w856.jpg

https://himalayantrekking.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Rob-Hall-Founder-of-Adventure-Consultants.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830687)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 11:16 PM
Author: flirting crusty stead

tyty

here are 2 of my favorite clips from gasherbrum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtXwLGLcFrY&t=662s

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtXwLGLcFrY&t=1010s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831055)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

180 cr friend 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49833105)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 8:49 PM
Author: flirting crusty stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49833134)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: exhilarant associate place of business

are there bars on Mount Everest like at ski resorts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829717)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Not on the mountain but in the villages nearby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830011)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 3:37 PM
Author: Kink-friendly talented institution

Lmao this takes 7 to 9 weeks to do? I always thought this was like some 4 hour tourist trap like the nyc marathon lmao. I would never do this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829821)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Yes you have to progressively acclimatize and end up climbing the equivalent of the height of the mountain twice given multiple ascents and descents between camps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829996)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 5:44 PM
Author: Frum Indecent Lodge

lmao what total flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830145)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 6:39 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

the peak is the height that some commercial airlines fly at

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830267)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 6:40 PM
Author: Frum Indecent Lodge

i thought that planes all avoid the himalayas so things won't Go Wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830272)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 6:42 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

the peak of everest is 30,000 ft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830277)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 8:34 AM
Author: amber bbw bawdyhouse

What’s your LSAT score? Obviously planes avoid things that are literally in their way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831510)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: emerald curious kitty cat casino

Same wtf... thought it was like a day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49829998)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

there's a guy working on remote acclimatization technology

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830874)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&mc=88&forum_id=2#49828351

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49830892)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 8:34 AM
Author: exhilarant associate place of business

lol wtf fr fr

I thought it took like 2 or 3 days to climb, not 2 months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831511)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 8:39 AM
Author: Pontificating Cracking Point

Everest is flame. You fly or drive over halfway to the top.

On the Tibet (North) side, you can drive via jeep to North Base Camp, which sits around 16,900 to 17,100 feet (5,200m) above sea level. On the Nepal (South) side, you typically fly into Lukla and trek for several days to Base Camp, which is at roughly 17,598 feet (5,364m).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831517)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 8:40 AM
Author: exhilarant associate place of business

Why can't a helicopter just drop someone off at the summit? Seems a lot safer and chill imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831518)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:11 AM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Helicopters can only go as high as approximately the ice fall just above base camp, because above that the air is too thin for the rotor to work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831585)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:12 AM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Yes the Everest climb is not the longest climb you can do. Denali is a taller climb from base to peak. But everest is the tallest peak above sea level and the thinnest air.

Its also not the closest point on earth to space. Thats a peak in Ecuador, which is closer to space due to the bulge of the earth at the equator.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831586)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:15 AM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

Kili is the most prominent peak in the world I think. There’s nothing else around it. Looks alpha as fuck. Everest is surrounded by other big mountains and doesn’t look so impressive.

I submitted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831595)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:23 AM
Author: exhilarant associate place of business

have you ever been to Everest?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831613)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:36 AM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

nope. been to KTM only in nepal. would like to do the EBC trek someday, but wife has no interest in doing a milti-day hike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831645)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:51 AM
Author: exhilarant associate place of business

dat too much walkin!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831684)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 10:03 AM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

she'd love multiple 1 day hikes if we could stay in decent hotels. she's against tents or dorm-style accommodations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831710)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:23 AM
Author: Concupiscible cowardly legal warrant

Yeah I think that's right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831616)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:13 AM
Author: Milky adventurous death wish

Dumb post. The second half is 99.99% of the effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831590)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:27 AM
Author: Pontificating Cracking Point

wow ty pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831621)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:29 AM
Author: exhilarant associate place of business

lol DBG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49831626)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: Kink-friendly talented institution

I’ve done it 3 times. You’re wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2E#49832327)