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Couldn't you fire "dummy missiles" alongside real ones to overwhelm defenses?

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in the...
Hyperactive Native Tank
  06/18/25
Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the co...
Sinister Mexican Newt
  06/18/25
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Out-of-control stag film
  06/18/25
Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet...
Hyperactive Native Tank
  06/18/25
What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does...
Bearded 180 Station
  06/18/25
They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket...
Exhilarant Confused Chad
  06/18/25
You can answer the question now
Bearded 180 Station
  06/18/25
So this is actually an idea which people have used. The ide...
Sinister Mexican Newt
  06/18/25
Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.
Bearded 180 Station
  06/18/25
What if they use lawnmower drones?
Bearded 180 Station
  06/18/25
Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then sh...
swashbuckling hissy fit
  06/18/25
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Hyperactive Native Tank
  06/18/25
Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?
doobsian demanding associate
  06/18/25
Yes
Sinister Mexican Newt
  06/19/25
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Magenta galvanic liquid oxygen
  06/18/25
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adventurous haunted graveyard
  06/18/25
(Bobby Birdshit)
Stubborn Magical Hell
  06/18/25
Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release ...
deranged puppy sex offender
  06/18/25
No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and...
Bearded 180 Station
  06/18/25
Man think disabled people have it hard enough
Hyperactive Native Tank
  06/18/25
This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.
mustard swollen indian lodge
  06/19/25


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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: Hyperactive Native Tank

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in them along with some that do, AA doesn't know the difference. Am I some insanely smart war strategist or what? Why doesn't Iran do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029366)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Sinister Mexican Newt

Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the cost of the rocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029376)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Out-of-control stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029382)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: Hyperactive Native Tank

Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029414)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Bearded 180 Station

What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does it still require engineering you can barely fathom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029418)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Exhilarant Confused Chad

They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket. You could just fill the explosives chamber with rocks or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029430)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: Bearded 180 Station

You can answer the question now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029456)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Sinister Mexican Newt

So this is actually an idea which people have used. The idea is to overwhelm the defenses by sending a lot of dumber, low cost munitions, but sending a dummy makes no sense economically. At some point there are not enough anti-missile weapons to stop them all. This is why drones can be effective; send thousands to the same place you can’t shoot them all down (in theory — shoot drones is pretty easy with a gun based defense, but there are range issues).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029477)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: Bearded 180 Station

Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49030279)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Bearded 180 Station

What if they use lawnmower drones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029458)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: swashbuckling hissy fit

Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then shoot them out of the real one once it gets close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029498)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: Hyperactive Native Tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029596)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: doobsian demanding associate

Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49030056)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Sinister Mexican Newt

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49031438)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Magenta galvanic liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49030054)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: adventurous haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49030068)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Stubborn Magical Hell

(Bobby Birdshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49029422)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: deranged puppy sex offender

Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release as they fly over high ADA regions. Supposedly some of the early Russian missile strikes in 2022 included completely inert iskander missiles whose explosive payloads were substituted entirely by decoys. This allowed them to fire volleys and have significantly more decoys to overwhelm air defenses, exactly as you suggested.

https://en.topcor.ru/24483-nyt-uznal-o-zapuskaemyh-rossiej-lozhnyh-celjah-vmeste-s-raketami-iskander-m.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49030052)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: Bearded 180 Station

No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and 48 hours later poasters are saying it costs nothing to add a warhead. Guess Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49030286)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: Hyperactive Native Tank

Man think disabled people have it hard enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49030291)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: mustard swollen indian lodge

This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2E#49031415)