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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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copper meetinghouse mediation
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Dull Crackhouse
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Dull Crackhouse
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Clear chad
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Jet Resort Tank
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
razzmatazz forum
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Trip ebony field
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Saffron outnumbered halford
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Saffron outnumbered halford
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Saffron outnumbered halford
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
jade talented weed whacker
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
gold university
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
magical bawdyhouse
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
razzmatazz forum
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
copper meetinghouse mediation
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
pungent charcoal roommate parlor
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
slate excitant set
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
cocky aphrodisiac becky
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
copper meetinghouse mediation
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
translucent nudist background story
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/26/25
...
Stimulating twinkling gas station
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
cyan church
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Lascivious pearl home dopamine
  06/26/25
...
lake spot
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
bonkers blood rage
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Soul-stirring Harsh Idea He Suggested
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Odious maize digit ratio
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Soul-stirring Harsh Idea He Suggested
  06/27/25
How was penn?
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
razzmatazz forum
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Trip ebony field
  06/27/25
...
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Ultramarine church building philosopher-king
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Soul-stirring Harsh Idea He Suggested
  06/27/25
...
insecure theatre rigpig
  06/27/25
...
doobsian house toilet seat
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Odious maize digit ratio
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Trip ebony field
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Self-absorbed violet box office
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
razzmatazz forum
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
cyan church
  06/27/25
...
Bull headed chrome space
  06/27/25
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razzmatazz forum
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: copper meetinghouse mediation

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Dull Crackhouse

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Dull Crackhouse

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Clear chad

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Jet Resort Tank

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: razzmatazz forum

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Trip ebony field

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Saffron outnumbered halford

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Saffron outnumbered halford

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Saffron outnumbered halford

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: jade talented weed whacker

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: gold university

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: magical bawdyhouse

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: razzmatazz forum

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: copper meetinghouse mediation

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: pungent charcoal roommate parlor

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: slate excitant set

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: cocky aphrodisiac becky

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: copper meetinghouse mediation

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: translucent nudist background story

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Stimulating twinkling gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: cyan church

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Lascivious pearl home dopamine

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: lake spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: bonkers blood rage

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Harsh Idea He Suggested

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Odious maize digit ratio

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Harsh Idea He Suggested

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: razzmatazz forum

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Trip ebony field

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Ultramarine church building philosopher-king

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Harsh Idea He Suggested

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: insecure theatre rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: doobsian house toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Odious maize digit ratio

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Trip ebony field

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Self-absorbed violet box office

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: razzmatazz forum

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: cyan church

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Bull headed chrome space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: razzmatazz forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053817)