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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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maniacal curious trailer park
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
shimmering theatre electric furnace
  12/16/25
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maniacal curious trailer park
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Stimulating Rusted Theater
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
shimmering theatre electric furnace
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Stimulating Rusted Theater
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
shimmering theatre electric furnace
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Stimulating Rusted Theater
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
maniacal curious trailer park
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
shimmering theatre electric furnace
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Stimulating Rusted Theater
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
shimmering theatre electric furnace
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Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Stimulating Rusted Theater
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maniacal curious trailer park
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shimmering theatre electric furnace
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
aphrodisiac poppy weed whacker hell
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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aphrodisiac poppy weed whacker hell
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Honey-headed bawdyhouse
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
shimmering theatre electric furnace
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Well-lubricated set keepsake machete
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
shimmering theatre electric furnace
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How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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maniacal curious trailer park
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i love scholarship
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genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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maniacal curious trailer park
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Stimulating Rusted Theater
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Iridescent infuriating azn
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: maniacal curious trailer park



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: maniacal curious trailer park

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Stimulating Rusted Theater

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Stimulating Rusted Theater

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Stimulating Rusted Theater

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: maniacal curious trailer park

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Stimulating Rusted Theater

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Stimulating Rusted Theater

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: maniacal curious trailer park



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: aphrodisiac poppy weed whacker hell

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: aphrodisiac poppy weed whacker hell



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Honey-headed bawdyhouse

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Well-lubricated set keepsake machete

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: harsh transparent french chef institution

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: maniacal curious trailer park



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: fuchsia abode mad-dog skullcap

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Slate location mediation

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: shimmering theatre electric furnace



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: fuchsia abode mad-dog skullcap



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: maniacal curious trailer park



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: maniacal curious trailer park



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Stimulating Rusted Theater

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Iridescent infuriating azn

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515738)