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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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carmine irradiated dilemma dragon
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
  12/16/25
18000
carmine irradiated dilemma dragon
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
carmine irradiated dilemma dragon
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel
  12/17/25
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carmine irradiated dilemma dragon
  12/17/25
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Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Free-loading space dingle berry
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
  12/16/25
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Free-loading space dingle berry
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
kink-friendly racy faggotry halford
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Razzle Location Rigor
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Fluffy Boiling Water
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Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
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carmine irradiated dilemma dragon
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
maniacal circlehead
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Vibrant maize new version stage
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Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship
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maniacal circlehead
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carmine irradiated dilemma dragon
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carmine irradiated dilemma dragon
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Trip bossy ticket booth son of senegal
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: carmine irradiated dilemma dragon



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: carmine irradiated dilemma dragon

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: carmine irradiated dilemma dragon

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: carmine irradiated dilemma dragon



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Free-loading space dingle berry

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Free-loading space dingle berry



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: kink-friendly racy faggotry halford

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Razzle Location Rigor

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Fluffy Boiling Water

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: carmine irradiated dilemma dragon



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: maniacal circlehead

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Vibrant maize new version stage

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Stirring Reading Party Cruise Ship



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: maniacal circlehead



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: carmine irradiated dilemma dragon



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: carmine irradiated dilemma dragon



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Ivory adventurous step-uncle's house incel

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Trip bossy ticket booth son of senegal

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515738)