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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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180 sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Laughsome disgusting stage
  12/16/25
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180 sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Milky Field Goal In Life
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Laughsome disgusting stage
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Milky Field Goal In Life
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Laughsome disgusting stage
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Milky Field Goal In Life
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
180 sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Laughsome disgusting stage
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Milky Field Goal In Life
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Laughsome disgusting stage
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Milky Field Goal In Life
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180 sweet tailpipe
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Laughsome disgusting stage
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
hairraiser community account address
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Laughsome disgusting stage
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hairraiser community account address
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Self-absorbed casino
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Laughsome disgusting stage
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
erotic liquid oxygen hominid
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Laughsome disgusting stage
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Indigo gay wizard
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180 sweet tailpipe
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Judgmental flickering electric furnace
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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Judgmental flickering electric furnace
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180 sweet tailpipe
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180 sweet tailpipe
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Milky Field Goal In Life
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Curious obsidian windowlicker knife
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: 180 sweet tailpipe



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: 180 sweet tailpipe

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Milky Field Goal In Life

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Milky Field Goal In Life

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Milky Field Goal In Life

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: 180 sweet tailpipe

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Milky Field Goal In Life

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Milky Field Goal In Life

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: 180 sweet tailpipe



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: hairraiser community account address

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: hairraiser community account address



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Self-absorbed casino

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: erotic liquid oxygen hominid

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Indigo gay wizard

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: 180 sweet tailpipe



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Judgmental flickering electric furnace

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Misanthropic skinny woman plaza

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Laughsome disgusting stage



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Judgmental flickering electric furnace



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: 180 sweet tailpipe



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Milky Field Goal In Life

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Curious obsidian windowlicker knife

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515738)