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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Trip magenta quadroon
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
jet windowlicker
  12/16/25
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Trip magenta quadroon
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
jet windowlicker
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
jet windowlicker
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Trip magenta quadroon
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
jet windowlicker
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
jet windowlicker
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace
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Trip magenta quadroon
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jet windowlicker
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
aromatic center
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
jet windowlicker
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aromatic center
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Gold comical senate
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
jet windowlicker
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
pearl whorehouse really tough guy
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
jet windowlicker
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
marvelous apoplectic forum
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jet windowlicker
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Trip magenta quadroon
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
excitant outnumbered stag film headpube
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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jet windowlicker
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excitant outnumbered stag film headpube
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Trip magenta quadroon
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Trip magenta quadroon
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
deep twinkling church building laser beams
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Trip magenta quadroon



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: jet windowlicker

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Trip magenta quadroon

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: jet windowlicker

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: jet windowlicker

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Trip magenta quadroon

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: jet windowlicker

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: jet windowlicker

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Trip magenta quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: jet windowlicker



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: aromatic center

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: jet windowlicker

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: aromatic center



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Gold comical senate

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: jet windowlicker

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: pearl whorehouse really tough guy

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: jet windowlicker

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: marvelous apoplectic forum

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: jet windowlicker



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Trip magenta quadroon



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: excitant outnumbered stag film headpube

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Misanthropic orchid famous landscape painting point

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: jet windowlicker



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: excitant outnumbered stag film headpube



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Trip magenta quadroon



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Trip magenta quadroon



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Stimulating rough-skinned menage electric furnace

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: deep twinkling church building laser beams

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515738)