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Want to piss off a physicist? Ask them what the Pauli exclusion principle is

Let them give you the canned definition, then ask "ok b...
Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater
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Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater
  12/10/23
which ones ignore it? bosons?
excitant water buffalo
  12/10/23
Photons, most notoriously. I think other "bosons" ...
Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater
  12/10/23
This question always annoys me because they named the partic...
Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater
  12/10/23
Why anything? Answering why fermions and bosons exist would ...
White house
  12/10/23
Exhibit a
Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater
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Why do we recognize that they exist? Literally math and a ce...
White house
  12/10/23
"Recognize" is the strongest verb you can use here...
Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater
  12/10/23
That's literally all of physics you retard We don't "k...
White house
  12/10/23
A photoelectric sensor can report that it detected particles...
Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater
  12/10/23
It's the same principle, photons don't get collected like ba...
White house
  12/10/23
We have a lot more confirmatory evidence that a photon passe...
Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater
  12/10/23
More evidence for photon: 0 pinocchios Inconsequential: 5 p...
White house
  12/10/23
We have eyes that can detect photons and we can compare what...
Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater
  12/10/23
This is an empirical problem, not a problem with muons.
White house
  12/10/23
It's an ontological problem. Moreover, even if we could conf...
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  12/10/23
Okay, now instead of simply being wrong, you are additionall...
White house
  12/10/23
You can definitely feel that shit. Or watch water boil with ...
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physicists HATE Nsam!
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Its when Tony and everyone else refused to visit Paulie in t...
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When she goes star-gazing, the galaxies have to hide THEIR f...
White house
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The Paui exclusion principle: it's not a "law" bec...
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So you just dispute it being called "principle" in...
White house
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No, I think "principle" is an accurate descriptor....
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Date: December 9th, 2023 8:37 PM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

Let them give you the canned definition, then ask "ok but why isn't it universal? Why are there all these particles that can ignore it freely?" That's when they get pissed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47152546)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:17 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153162)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:30 AM
Author: excitant water buffalo

which ones ignore it? bosons?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153185)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:42 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

Photons, most notoriously. I think other "bosons" do too if they even exist. No one has ever seen most of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153210)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:46 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

This question always annoys me because they named the particles after Bose, but Bose was only looking at photons. Photons should be called "bosons"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153217)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:50 AM
Author: White house

Why anything? Answering why fermions and bosons exist would be in the purview of a TOE/GUT. And even then you could still ask "why?" like why does anything exist at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153224)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:52 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

Exhibit a

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153227)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:54 AM
Author: White house

Why do we recognize that they exist? Literally math and a century of observation you mouthbreather.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153232)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:56 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

"Recognize" is the strongest verb you can use here. The most you can say is that experimental data is consistent with what we would expect if they existed. That doesn't mean something else couldn't be causing the results, it just means you can't think of a more plausible explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153237)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:58 AM
Author: White house

That's literally all of physics you retard

We don't "know" anything empirical about anything beyond what empirical knowledge currently describes. You like to pick at pet topics but you really have a gripe with the philosophy of physics, which is a topic you are entirely too autistic to comprehend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153241)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:00 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

A photoelectric sensor can report that it detected particles directly. No one has ever built a muon detector that can tell you where the muon touched it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153245)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:06 AM
Author: White house

It's the same principle, photons don't get collected like balls in a chute, there must be some sort of interaction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153253)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:10 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

We have a lot more confirmatory evidence that a photon passed through the detector than we have that a theoretical particle caused some inconsequential effect when we detected when turned on the magnets at LHC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153258)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:13 AM
Author: White house

More evidence for photon: 0 pinocchios

Inconsequential: 5 pinocchios

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon_tomography

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153262)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:18 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

We have eyes that can detect photons and we can compare what our eyes see with what the thingy reports. Can't do that with muons. We're seeing an effect we would expect to see if muons exist, but we've also imagined a particle that can do all the things we're seeing. It's circular logic, because you're constantly allowing the definition of "muon" to evolve with whatever the fuck it is you're measuring. You're not telling me something is red when my eyes also tell me it's red.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153278)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:19 AM
Author: White house

This is an empirical problem, not a problem with muons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153286)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:26 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

It's an ontological problem. Moreover, even if we could confirm the existence of these subatomic particles it would move us no closer to understanding a goddamn thing about physics. Just because a particle can cross the Higgs field doesn't mean it broke the supersymmetry and brought matter into existence. It just means we can't totally discard that theory (even though it was already discarded by the time we "detected" the particle).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153315)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:28 AM
Author: White house

Okay, now instead of simply being wrong, you are additionally being incoherent.

I did find out that you can see IR photons though, maybe the government controls you with TV remotes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153323)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:38 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

You can definitely feel that shit. Or watch water boil with no fire

https://physics.info/thermo-first/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153365)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:53 AM
Author: Appetizing lemon dragon

physicists HATE Nsam!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153229)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:53 AM
Author: indigo theatre candlestick maker

Its when Tony and everyone else refused to visit Paulie in the can. Led to quite a row when Paulie was mad enough about it that he told Johnny Sack about Ralph's Ginny fat joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153230)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:55 AM
Author: White house

When she goes star-gazing, the galaxies have to hide THEIR food!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153235)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:54 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

The Paui exclusion principle: it's not a "law" because particles can ignore it. Otherwise they would call it Pauli's law.

But it's also not described as a character of the particles. Instead it's presented as some overarching "principle" that an Italian man uncovered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153234)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:56 AM
Author: White house

So you just dispute it being called "principle" instead of "theory."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153238)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:59 AM
Author: Exciting Flirting Theater Stage Volcanic Crater

No, I think "principle" is an accurate descriptor. It lets you know up front that it's not actual "law" of physics in any meaningful sense. At the same it's settled. Whoever the fuck Pauli was, the debate ended with him. Stop asking questions about this area of physics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#47153242)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 11:24 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2E#49434780)