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aliens probably dont exist
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Date: May 7th, 2025 11:08 PM Author: i gave my cousin head we are all alone in this vast void
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Date: May 7th, 2025 11:08 PM Author: metaphysics is fallow theyre somewhere just not here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48912518) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 11:19 PM Author: ,,,..,,.......,,.... but there may be other intelligent creatures here who have always been here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48912533) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 11:20 PM Author: Post nut horror Your mother is a fucking whore regardless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48912537) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 11:20 PM Author: gibberish (?) Yeah seems more likely we're a fluke. The universe isn't even that much older than life on earth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48912538) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface And not much bigger than our planet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48912554) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 11:34 PM Author: Post nut horror (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48912559) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 2:05 PM Author: ...,....,,........ Just as flat, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48914190) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 11:37 PM Author: disco fries (his own flesh as well as all space was still a cage) It has always seemed to me that even if there was other life out there does it even matter? The gulf in space and time is so vast and our species and life itself is so impermanent. I genuinely question whether it’s even feasible or possible for humanity to “get off the rock” let alone travel the stars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48912564) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 11:44 PM Author: Restless Penis Syndrome Not with an attitude like that! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48912571) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 1:28 AM Author: gedood persoon It wasn't long ago that people thought that heavier than air flight was impossible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48912650) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:37 AM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. In general, if you ask if anything about us is unique the general answer is almost certainly "absolutely not." It is simply a numbers game.
The range of galaxies is between several hundred billion to potentially as many as 20 trillion. Our galaxy has between 100 billion and 400 billion stars and isn't atypical. In other words, if we're 1 in a billion (and we're not) then our galaxy has 100-400 other civilizations. Now expand that across another hundreds of billions or tens of trillions of galaxies and yeah, we're not alone. |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:40 AM Author: gibberish (?) What makes your first assumption "absolutely not"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913428) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:43 AM Author: gedood persoon not the poster here but let me take a stab at it
It is simply a numbers game. The range of galaxies is between several hundred billion to potentially as many as 20 trillion. Our galaxy has between 100 billion and 400 billion stars and isn't atypical. In other words, if we're 1 in a billion (and we're not) then our galaxy has 100-400 other civilizations. Now expand that across another hundreds of billions or tens of trillions of galaxies and yeah, we're not alone.
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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:47 AM Author: gibberish (?) I get the odds and the unfathomable space we're dealing with here, but we really don't understand how life can spontaneously form. We don't understand the variables involved which makes speculation on probability really tricky.
Lastly, where are they? |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:55 AM Author: disco fries (his own flesh as well as all space was still a cage) You also have to consider the dimension of time. Forwards, backwards, etc. There was no life in our solar system for billions of revolutions of Earth around the Sun, and in this way, even our own Solar System was very much like what ever else we "see" out there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913483) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:09 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface We don't understand a lot of things we later understand. We don't understand a lot of things that seem to be me consistently proven via experimentation. Doesn't make any of it less true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913526) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. "I get the ... unfathomable space we're dealing with here"..."Lastly, where are they?"
Can we cross the unfathomable space? No? Then it is totally realistic that there are tons of civilizations that are like us and also can't cross the unfathomable space. If you look at where we are in the galaxy and realize that humans haven't even left our solar system or explored the solar systems near us let alone our portion of the galaxy let alone the entire galaxy let alone cross to the nearest galaxy away from us let alone our cluster of galaxies and so on.
Finally, you assume 2 more things: 1. that even if they can contact us that they would want to, and 2. that they haven't been here.
Another thing to consider that even for humanity's civilization, assuming we want to communicate with other civilizations across the stars we've had the ability to do that for 50ish years or so. Even with that our means of doing so are extremely primitive - it isn't clear that it is realistic across the stars. Radio transmission is very slow and we're talking about a huge number of light years, meaning that even if we somehow found a way of transmitting communications at the speed of light, assuming we sent something 50 years ago we would be limited to distances of 25 light years away assuming the civilization immediately responded with something equally fast. 25 light years is nothing.
tl;dr - the "unfathomable distances" is the problem. |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: sealclubber it's almost like a paradox, fermi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913610) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:07 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913521) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:46 AM Author: Dickey Simpkins We’ll never interact with any aliens unless they obliterate us.
See Dark Forest Theory. |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:42 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Dark Forest Theory just states that civilizations are generally intentionally run in stealth to avoid the possibility of being discovered by an aggressive alien civilization. It doesn't mean that those that are visible are quickly destroyed. That's "Berserker" or "Deadly Probes" hypothesis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913672) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:55 AM Author: SkaddenArse we are the aliens bro. future humans will travel the stars and populate the planets. it will be the Second Age of Discovery. (places bong back on coffee table) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913481) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:10 PM Author: \"''"\'""\''\"\''"\' Likely they exist due to the sheer number of stars in the universe Will we ever get in contact with them, unlikely |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. This is a reasonable position. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913603) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 2:08 PM Author: ...,....,,........ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48914217) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:30 PM Author: Billy Buttfucker All that shit is fake. Space isn’t that big and I doubt other galaxies or whatever even exist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913614) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913673) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 1:35 PM Author: i gave my cousin head then they dont exist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48913943) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 2:11 PM Author: you\'re the puppet If we get to Mars, we'll be aliens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48914258) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 4:25 PM Author: Jason Genova They almost certainly do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721781&forum_id=2E#48914792) |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 5:35 PM Author: OldHLSDude A universe filled with alien life living in silos unaware of its neighbors is consistent with our current understanding of cosmology and physics. Unless technological life has evolved on multiple planets within a solar system, space faring life forms are very unlikely ever to bump into neighbors.
The number of opportunities and the time scale for life to arise seem to me to be such that it is extremely unlikely there is no more life around, especially when we find so many organic precursors floating around everywhere we look. Whatever the life creating process is, some parts of it look pretty common. We also know that evolution works, so if there is life it's going to evolve, and some number of those evolutions will result in technologically capable intelligent life as well as some things we can't even imagine. My bet is that there is plenty of thinking life around. However, that doesn't mean we'll ever meet it.
It's a long way between stars. If we lived in a more densely packed region of space we might hear radio or detect industrial signatures. That still could happen as detection improves.
Also, as noted, in order to contact another group you have to coincide both in space and in time. It may be that the time window within which most life forms have to do any contacting could be brief for various reasons.
Travel is tough. In the absence of warp drive it takes huge amounts of time to go exploring, even assuming you can muster the resources. Only very long lived critters could do it unless their physiologies are amenable to some kind of long term hibernation. Machines are more likely to do the exploring. Without inventing anything magical you could imagine doing it with machines up to tens of light years away, provided you are able to wait thousands of years for the results. The bargain way to do it would be with small vessels filled with explorer nanobots. Musk's guys could probably get this done within a few decades from now. BTW the nanobots could be mechanical or biological, or some combo.
There could be aliens living in more populated parts of the cosmos who bump into each other often. There could be solar systems in which intelligent life has evolved on more than one world at roughly the same time, and they can have a jolly time trading, raping, pillaging, nuking each other, etc. At the very least they could swap TV shows.
The same could happen in denser parts of space. In our neighborhood star density is about .004 stars/cubic light year. The galactic core is about 1600 stars/cubic light year. The core is a harsher environment for life, but note that the density range is a factor of 400,000. There probably are better interstellar urban neighborhoods for meeting the neighbors than where we live in the boonies, though the core may be a little too busy.
Schrödinger's alien is both there and not there. One observation will resolve the issue. |