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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Abnormal nowag shrine
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
  12/16/25
18000
Abnormal nowag shrine
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
High-end unhinged voyeur
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
High-end unhinged voyeur
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
High-end unhinged voyeur
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Abnormal nowag shrine
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
High-end unhinged voyeur
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
High-end unhinged voyeur
  12/17/25
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Abnormal nowag shrine
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cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
coiffed dead market gaping
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
  12/16/25
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coiffed dead market gaping
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
misunderstood generalized bond state
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
thriller olive principal's office becky
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Copper stag film
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cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
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Abnormal nowag shrine
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
nighttime violent degenerate meetinghouse
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Translucent Church Building
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cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison
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nighttime violent degenerate meetinghouse
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Abnormal nowag shrine
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Abnormal nowag shrine
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
High-end unhinged voyeur
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
ocher station coldplay fan
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Abnormal nowag shrine



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Abnormal nowag shrine

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: High-end unhinged voyeur

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: High-end unhinged voyeur

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: High-end unhinged voyeur

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Abnormal nowag shrine

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: High-end unhinged voyeur

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: High-end unhinged voyeur

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Abnormal nowag shrine



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: coiffed dead market gaping

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: coiffed dead market gaping



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: misunderstood generalized bond state

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: thriller olive principal's office becky

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Copper stag film

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Abnormal nowag shrine



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: nighttime violent degenerate meetinghouse

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Translucent Church Building

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: cruel-hearted talented juggernaut garrison



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: nighttime violent degenerate meetinghouse



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Abnormal nowag shrine



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Abnormal nowag shrine



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: High-end unhinged voyeur

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: ocher station coldplay fan

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2E#49515738)