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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
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The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
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Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
sapphire sticky circlehead mad-dog skullcap
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison
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Guns are muktzah.
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  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
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  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
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Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
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state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
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Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
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how do they get home?
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they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
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  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
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Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
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ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
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How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: cordovan vibrant telephone gay wizard



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: cordovan vibrant telephone gay wizard

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: sapphire sticky circlehead mad-dog skullcap

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: sapphire sticky circlehead mad-dog skullcap

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: sapphire sticky circlehead mad-dog skullcap

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: cordovan vibrant telephone gay wizard

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: sapphire sticky circlehead mad-dog skullcap

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: sapphire sticky circlehead mad-dog skullcap

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: cordovan vibrant telephone gay wizard



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: domesticated disgusting toaster orchestra pit

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: domesticated disgusting toaster orchestra pit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Supple double fault goal in life

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: magenta fear-inspiring azn

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Burgundy slippery forum

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: aphrodisiac confused police squad garrison



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: sapphire sticky circlehead mad-dog skullcap

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: abnormal deep theater stage legend

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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