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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Hot razzle gunner
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just walk outside bro
Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
nighttime state philosopher-king
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Arousing Chapel Mad Cow Disease
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
nighttime state philosopher-king
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Arousing Chapel Mad Cow Disease
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
nighttime state philosopher-king
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
elite house
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Hot razzle gunner

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Yapping disrespectful feces cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: nighttime state philosopher-king

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Arousing Chapel Mad Cow Disease

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: nighttime state philosopher-king

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Arousing Chapel Mad Cow Disease

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: nighttime state philosopher-king

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Smoky mischievous chad trailer park

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: chocolate deep kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: light razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: fear-inspiring elastic band heaven

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: cream painfully honest lettuce theater stage

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Appetizing corn cake

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Smoky mischievous chad trailer park

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: elite house

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: zombie-like charismatic kitty cat

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: electric parlor

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49105022)