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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
doobsian bossy really tough guy university
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Wild narrow-minded resort
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
abusive locus
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: doobsian bossy really tough guy university

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Wild narrow-minded resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: abusive locus

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Orchid nursing home turdskin

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: abusive locus

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Orchid nursing home turdskin

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: abusive locus

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Irradiated Gaming Laptop Temple

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: frum iridescent hospital multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: soul-stirring slate incel theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: lascivious codepig trust fund

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: dun wonderful tank

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Beta forum community account

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Irradiated Gaming Laptop Temple

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: provocative massive set son of senegal

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Jet-lagged church chad

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: rough-skinned dopamine center

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49105022)