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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Copper Masturbator Church
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Frisky henna native
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
vivacious chad parlour
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
180 piazza
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
vivacious chad parlour
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
180 piazza
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
vivacious chad parlour
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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Cyan pocket flask
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Blathering haunted graveyard
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
cruel-hearted alpha
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Razzmatazz voyeur
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Copper Masturbator Church

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Frisky henna native

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Frisky henna native

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Frisky henna native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: vivacious chad parlour

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: 180 piazza

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: vivacious chad parlour

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: 180 piazza

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: vivacious chad parlour

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: cerise yapping nowag

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: federal location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Cyan pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Blathering haunted graveyard

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: turquoise locus

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: cruel-hearted alpha

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: cerise yapping nowag

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Razzmatazz voyeur

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: bearded bawdyhouse

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: mewling temple indirect expression

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49105022)