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MIT has student assassinated after publishing paper on AI (WSJ)

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mit-says-it-no-longer-stands-beh...
Fragrant theater
  05/17/25
AI can’t make novel discoveries. That’s the less...
Vigorous Chest-beating Son Of Senegal Shitlib
  05/17/25
Yes. Absolutely. And if it DOES make one, then it will be er...
sticky parlour place of business
  05/17/25
It already has in Chess
Beady-eyed Emerald Location Black Woman
  05/17/25
what did it figure out in chess?
Umber shrine
  05/17/25
It has made them in literally every field imaginable and the...
sticky parlour place of business
  05/17/25
Can you copy and paste this? I'm not signing up for this tr...
sticky parlour place of business
  05/17/25
https://archive.ph/I32HC
Fragrant theater
  05/17/25
They didn't reject it because it was WRONG, they rejected it...
sticky parlour place of business
  05/17/25
...
Fragrant theater
  05/17/25
...
Autistic purple hospital
  05/17/25
What’s fr?
electric kink-friendly whorehouse pervert
  05/17/25
Sounds like the student made the whole thing up and deserved...
painfully honest state
  05/17/25
How is that different from any other paper?
sticky parlour place of business
  05/17/25
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wild indirect expression kitchen
  05/17/25
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Autistic purple hospital
  05/17/25
Reading between the lines here, it kind of looks like he mig...
sable doctorate
  05/17/25
Not necessarily. "Can't verify the provenance" is...
sticky parlour place of business
  05/17/25
(dude who made up the whole paper)
bisexual disturbing blood rage pit
  05/17/25
Again, how is this different from any other paper? If you a...
sticky parlour place of business
  05/17/25
...
Coral Alcoholic Elastic Band
  05/17/25
Bro you got caught it’s ok
bisexual disturbing blood rage pit
  05/17/25
products of Project OBAMA (Orangutan-Baboon-Ape Microarray A...
Mildly autistic adventurous roast beef wrinkle
  05/17/25
Was it your paper?
painfully honest state
  05/17/25
Here's the full paper before it gets pulled down: https://ar...
Lavender locus
  05/17/25
So he used graph theory to make some dumb production node di...
sticky parlour place of business
  05/17/25
He didn't actually use graph theory. He reported that his su...
Lavender locus
  05/18/25
Lol I read this paper and thought it was real 180 this gu...
Deep ticket booth feces
  05/17/25
so the paper is fake?
concupiscible haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
Yeah apparently he just straight up made it all up johnsmeye...
Deep ticket booth feces
  05/17/25
It's 100% fraud. The data was fabricated and the AI tool use...
Bespoke Resort
  05/17/25
...
concupiscible haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
He literally got a Nobel prize winner to endorse it so it&rs...
sticky parlour place of business
  05/17/25
based
arrogant arousing station macaca
  05/18/25
Impressive level of psychosis. Needs to be a poaster.
Lavender locus
  05/17/25
...
electric kink-friendly whorehouse pervert
  05/18/25


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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: Fragrant theater

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mit-says-it-no-longer-stands-behind-students-ai-research-paper-11434092

https://archive.ph/I32HC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938836)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:15 AM
Author: Vigorous Chest-beating Son Of Senegal Shitlib

AI can’t make novel discoveries. That’s the lesson here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938850)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:20 AM
Author: sticky parlour place of business

Yes. Absolutely. And if it DOES make one, then it will be erased and deeply concerned intellectuals will pretend it never happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938856)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Emerald Location Black Woman

It already has in Chess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939296)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:41 PM
Author: Umber shrine

what did it figure out in chess?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939393)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 10:35 PM
Author: sticky parlour place of business

It has made them in literally every field imaginable and the stuff you can find publicly is the tip of the iceberg, especially when you consider humans just use AI and take credit for it. lol at "chess" being an example.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48940468)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: sticky parlour place of business

Can you copy and paste this? I'm not signing up for this trash, but I want to see how deeply concerned they are about AI and about the possibility someone might use it to ghostwrite a heresy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938854)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: Fragrant theater

https://archive.ph/I32HC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938867)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: sticky parlour place of business

They didn't reject it because it was WRONG, they rejected it because the apelet didn't spend his late nights hunched over LaTeX with an empty fruit pile, and then go through some tribal peer review grooming ritual where Dr. Kratz interrogates him about RIGOR and the dangers of metaphor to ensure no heterodoxies slip through the cracks. Fr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938866)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Fragrant theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938869)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: Autistic purple hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939709)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: electric kink-friendly whorehouse pervert

What’s fr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939749)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:34 AM
Author: painfully honest state

Sounds like the student made the whole thing up and deserved to get got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938875)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:35 AM
Author: sticky parlour place of business

How is that different from any other paper?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938877)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:55 AM
Author: wild indirect expression kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938903)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: Autistic purple hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939711)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:39 AM
Author: sable doctorate

Reading between the lines here, it kind of looks like he might have made up the existence of the lab?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938880)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: sticky parlour place of business

Not necessarily. "Can't verify the provenance" is just how they talk when something slips past the peer-vetting troglodyte net and might be real--but isn't sanctified by the priesthood. It doesn't even say that its talking about data provenance. It could be where the sentence structure came from. Since they can't verify it's ape prose, they are saying who knows if it came from this primate and not another one or some chimp-machine combination. Which obviously, who the hell cares, but thats how these people think. They want to ensure someone suffered to get their accolades like they did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938888)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: bisexual disturbing blood rage pit

(dude who made up the whole paper)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938910)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: sticky parlour place of business

Again, how is this different from any other paper? If you are talking about the data part, then who cares? LOL at believing in social sciences "data" and "experiment design". It's all made up somewhere along the chain whether its by AI or a group of chimps. If the lab was invented, then congrats--hes now on equal footing with every think thank thats ever fabricated an anecdotal "case study" to retroengineer a conclusion. If it was simulated by an AI that's called modeling. If the experiment didn't happen at all, welcome to 90% of the entire discipline of "economics" fr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48938918)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: Coral Alcoholic Elastic Band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939316)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: bisexual disturbing blood rage pit

Bro you got caught it’s ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939586)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: Mildly autistic adventurous roast beef wrinkle

products of Project OBAMA (Orangutan-Baboon-Ape Microarray Analysis), a heavily-funded but highly secretive post-WWII science initiative that ran for nearly 30 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939309)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: painfully honest state

Was it your paper?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939577)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: Lavender locus

Here's the full paper before it gets pulled down: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.17866

It's hard to think of a US corporate materials science lab with that many people, particularly one that's so diverse. Who's spending $250M/year+ on materials R&D? The project, if real, would have taken a lot of time and work and an unusual degree of cooperation from the "lab." The paper does not seem implausible, and if a fabrication it's superficially impressive, though I just skimmed it. The paper itself does not seem like it could have been written by an LLM. FWIW, the "AI" being used in the lab is described as a set of graph neural networks, which makes sense in the context.

The author is not listed in the MIT alumni directory, so he must have left very quickly after starting in 2023. His LinkedIn says he was there for 1 year and 10 months. Grad students are included in the directory after two terms. I don't know when he would have time to undertake this extensive a study. It reads like something that might actually have been undertaken by a consultant or internally. Perhaps his crime was at least partly plagiarism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939295)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 6:33 PM
Author: sticky parlour place of business

So he used graph theory to make some dumb production node diagram and dats too AI for these boomers because it involved python and tensor flow? What a joke they made it sound like he used an llm to ghostwrite the whole thing. Probably should have they wouldn’t have caught him. LLM would have generated passable data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48940062)



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Date: May 18th, 2025 12:31 PM
Author: Lavender locus

He didn't actually use graph theory. He reported that his supposed materials lab did. I didn't see that he specifically reported that they used Tensorflow. It's on the way out anyway, but maybe it would be reasonable to say they used it a couple of years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48941311)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: Deep ticket booth feces

Lol I read this paper and thought it was real

180 this guy is based whoever he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939299)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: concupiscible haunted graveyard

so the paper is fake?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939317)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: Deep ticket booth feces

Yeah apparently he just straight up made it all up johnsmeyer style

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939580)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: Bespoke Resort

It's 100% fraud. The data was fabricated and the AI tool used in the study he describes never existed. He even tried to make a fake website with Corning to back up his fraud, but they stopped him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939343)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: concupiscible haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939348)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 6:34 PM
Author: sticky parlour place of business

He literally got a Nobel prize winner to endorse it so it’s a 180 bit and shows Econ is all made up fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48940068)



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Date: May 18th, 2025 6:22 AM
Author: arrogant arousing station macaca

based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48940788)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: Lavender locus

Impressive level of psychosis. Needs to be a poaster.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48939690)



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Date: May 18th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: electric kink-friendly whorehouse pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2E#48941521)