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Date: May 13th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: .,.,....,.,.,.,:,,:,....,:::,....,:,.,.:...,:.::,
Under 25 - $2,800
25 to 34 - $15,000
35 to 44 - $36,000
45 to 54 - $61,000
55 to 64 - $87,000
Over 65 - $88,000
Per Vanguard's 2024 report
https://x.com/grok/status/1922262989551632557
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2E#48928613) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,
These sites massively overestimate the cost of "retirement" - most older people
1. Have paid off or at least low mortgage homes
2. Get social security
3. Continue to work and have some income
4. Don't have dependents and have pretty low expenses
The idea that you need to have enough 401k to be able to match your current $300k salary for 30 years doing no work is just 401k propaganda.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2E#48928789) |
Date: May 13th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: .....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.
Jfc why are people so poor.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2E#48928804) |
Date: May 14th, 2025 9:11 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,,,........;.,.,.; ( )
Is this a flame stat? Most people are going to roll their 401k into IRA's when they change jobs, so their 401k balance could be low even if they're millionaires. Or even if they just leave their old 401(k) in their old plan, instead of one person with 500,000 they may show up as a 300K and a 200K. We've done the scholarship on XO and everybody is a millionaire, so their net worth must be in something else.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2E#48929355) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Yeah, I have only about $150k in my current 401k, but I switched jobs about five years ago. But I have $450k in a former employer's 401k. (This employer pays some of my health care expenses in retirement, but I lose that benefit if I roll over my 401k. It doesn't make sense to me, either, but I didn't roll it over for that reason.) I also have about $400k in Roth IRA's (some of which is money I rolled over from 401k's when I was younger). My wife also has about $200k in Roth IRA's and another $100k in her 401k. So if you only look at one of our accounts in a vacuum, it looks like we are fucked, but if you combine all of our accounts, we are in pretty solid shape.
TLDR: Median retirement balances are meaningless because most people have multiple accounts.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2E#48929470) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,,,........;.,.,.; ( )
You sound shit with money, if you make even just $200K you should at least be maxing 401(k), IRA, HSA, and iBonds every year.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2E#48929565) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,,,........;.,.,.; ( )
Sure it would, because they're looking at the median account, not how much the median account holder actually has. To do a super simplified example, if everybody has $300K in their 401(k), then the median is $300K. But if everybody has three 401(k)'s of $100K each, the median is $100K despite them all having $300K.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2E#48929564) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:31 AM Author: LathamTouchedMe
Here’s the report. I doubt what you’re saying has any impact. You can see in the data that the median length of time of participation is very short, the income subject to contribution (70k) not very high, and the amount that’s contributed each year is paltry (about a few thousand). Most people don’t start in a 401k job until they're practically mid-career and then they (and their employer) contribute next to nothing.
https://corporate.vanguard.com/content/dam/corp/research/pdf/how_america_saves_report_2024.pdf
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724688&forum_id=2E#48929780) |
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