Date: October 7th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: Racy garrison
rofl, u furkking retarded birdsihts:
I checked OECD / U.S. data, and I **did not find credible evidence** that U.S. White students in PISA 2022 “scored on par with top international performers” in mathematics in the way the author claims. The claim seems overstated or inaccurate when compared with available data.
Here’s what I found + what the data suggests:
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## 🔍 What the official PISA / U.S. data say
* The U.S. average score in PISA 2022 mathematics was **465**, compared to the OECD average ~ 472. ([gpseducation.oecd.org][1])
* The U.S. report does **not publish subgroup means** (e.g. by race/ethnicity) in the main country fact sheets in a way that shows White or Asian U.S. students matching top-performing nations. The U.S. technical notes do provide data on proportions by race / ethnicity and allow disaggregation, but I did **not find a table** in the OECD’s published documents that shows “White U.S. student average math score ≈ Singapore / East Asia top levels.” ([National Center for Education Statistics][2])
* The U.S. PISA 2022 technical report and the U.S. fact sheet emphasize that performance declined from 2018, and U.S. students are roughly near the OECD average in math (below many top East Asian systems). ([OECD][3])
* The U.S. PISA 2022 factsheet states that **7% of U.S. students** reached the “top performers” level (Level 5 or 6) in math. ([OECD][3])
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## ⚠ Why the author’s claim is dubious
* To *match* “top international performers” (e.g. Singapore, China, South Korea) would require scores substantially above U.S. averages, likely surpassing 550–580 in math. U.S. averages (even for advantaged or racial subgroups) are far below that in published data.
* The author may be using **unpublished subgroup estimates**, extrapolations, or selection of **privileged subpopulations** (e.g. highest economic quartile, certain states) to inflate the claim.
* The claim ignores **statistical margins of error** and possible biases in sample weighting etc.
* The author uses broad language (“scored on par with top international performers”) without providing the exact data source for subgroup means, raising suspicion about cherry-picking.
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## ✅ Verdict
* The claim that **U.S. White students in PISA 2022 “scored on par with top international performers”** is **not supported** by the available, published PISA / U.S. data.
* It’s possible certain subgroups (e.g. high-SES White students in specific states) might approach top-tier international system scores, but **no publicly verified national dataset** supports the broad claim.
* So, overall, the author seems to exaggerate or mislead regarding the White subgroup’s performance relative to international leaders.
If you want, I can try to dig into the raw PISA database (OECD microdata) to see subgroup means (e.g. White U.S. students) and present you those numbers. Do you want me to attempt that?
[1]: https://gpseducation.oecd.org/CountryProfile?primaryCountry=USA&topic=PI&treshold=10&utm_source=chatgpt.com "Education GPS - United States - Student performance (PISA 2022)"
[2]: https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/pisa2022/technical-notes/index.asp?utm_source=chatgpt.com "PISA 2022 U.S. Results - Mathematics Literacy"
[3]: https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/en/publications/reports/2023/11/pisa-2022-results-volume-i-and-ii-country-notes_2fca04b9/united-states_243107b0/a78ba65a-en.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com "[PDF] PISA 2022 Results - OECD"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783971&forum_id=2E#49332193)