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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
180
Disgusting passionate cruise ship
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
much more than that
charcoal theatre goyim
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Carnelian alpha
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Haunting stimulating resort
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...
Adventurous office
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Disgusting passionate cruise ship
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Zippy Insecure Station Boiling Water
  11/09/25
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puce national half-breed
  11/09/25
why who is he?
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
rambunctious wine locus
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Disgusting passionate cruise ship
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wonderful stubborn library rigor
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cr he blows
laughsome trump supporter heaven
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Plum irradiated temple
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Plum irradiated temple
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
heady cordovan french chef
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Indigo Coldplay Fan
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
excitant bipolar crackhouse
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
excitant bipolar crackhouse
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
Contagious site fanboi
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
brilliant hyperactive forum place of business
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Multi-colored Fat Ankles
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Indigo Coldplay Fan
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
laughsome trump supporter heaven
  11/09/25
*destroying
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
charcoal theatre goyim
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
laughsome trump supporter heaven
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
charcoal theatre goyim
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
propecia mathematica
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Histrionic Glassy Sex Offender
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
Jews maf
effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
excitant bipolar crackhouse
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
excitant bipolar crackhouse
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
laughsome trump supporter heaven
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
brilliant hyperactive forum place of business
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Histrionic Glassy Sex Offender
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Yapping stead affirmative action
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Yapping stead affirmative action
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
brilliant hyperactive forum place of business
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/09/25
lol
Yapping stead affirmative action
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
Naked Dashing Den
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effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
orchid beta hospital volcanic crater
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Indigo Coldplay Fan
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
laughsome trump supporter heaven
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Multi-colored Fat Ankles
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Histrionic Glassy Sex Offender
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Adventurous office
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
chartreuse appetizing address
  11/10/25
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effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Hateful business firm
  11/10/25
lol
exhilarant death wish center
  11/10/25
Lmao
propecia mathematica
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Disgusting passionate cruise ship

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: charcoal theatre goyim

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Carnelian alpha

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Haunting stimulating resort

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Adventurous office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Disgusting passionate cruise ship

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Zippy Insecure Station Boiling Water

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: puce national half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: rambunctious wine locus

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Disgusting passionate cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: wonderful stubborn library rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: laughsome trump supporter heaven

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Plum irradiated temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415195)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Plum irradiated temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: heady cordovan french chef

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Indigo Coldplay Fan

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: excitant bipolar crackhouse

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: excitant bipolar crackhouse

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Contagious site fanboi

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: brilliant hyperactive forum place of business

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Multi-colored Fat Ankles

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Indigo Coldplay Fan

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: laughsome trump supporter heaven

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: charcoal theatre goyim

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: laughsome trump supporter heaven

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: charcoal theatre goyim

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: propecia mathematica

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Histrionic Glassy Sex Offender

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: excitant bipolar crackhouse

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: excitant bipolar crackhouse

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: laughsome trump supporter heaven

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: brilliant hyperactive forum place of business

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Histrionic Glassy Sex Offender

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Yapping stead affirmative action

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Yapping stead affirmative action

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: brilliant hyperactive forum place of business

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Yapping stead affirmative action

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Naked Dashing Den

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: orchid beta hospital volcanic crater

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Indigo Coldplay Fan

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: laughsome trump supporter heaven

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Multi-colored Fat Ankles

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Histrionic Glassy Sex Offender

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Adventurous office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: chartreuse appetizing address

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: effete buck-toothed sneaky criminal public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Hateful business firm

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: exhilarant death wish center

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: propecia mathematica

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416774)