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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law...
blue party of the first part
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Overrated cracking address
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Overrated cracking address
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
transparent mind-boggling set
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Concupiscible cream step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Milky home black woman
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Laughsome area selfie
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Gay native laser beams
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Gay native laser beams
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Gay native laser beams
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
cowardly organic girlfriend theater stage
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
galvanic cyan queen of the night patrolman
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Indigo Talented Rigpig
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Milky home black woman
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
blue party of the first part
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
appetizing plum temple degenerate
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
irradiated heaven
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
fragrant alcoholic market antidepressant drug
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
blue party of the first part
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
thriller jet-lagged center
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/26/25
...
dull foreskin
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
bearded indian lodge
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Wonderful jewess
  06/26/25
...
Lascivious generalized bond circlehead
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
very tactful brunch ladyboy
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Glassy Trip Dilemma Shitlib
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
house-broken site
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Glassy Trip Dilemma Shitlib
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Milky home black woman
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Laughsome area selfie
  06/27/25
...
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Pontificating Pit Legal Warrant
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Glassy Trip Dilemma Shitlib
  06/27/25
...
Clear station
  06/27/25
...
Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
house-broken site
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Laughsome area selfie
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Sick gunner
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Milky home black woman
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
bearded indian lodge
  06/27/25
...
odious startled trailer park
  06/27/25
...
Milky home black woman
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: blue party of the first part

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Overrated cracking address

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Overrated cracking address

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: transparent mind-boggling set

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Concupiscible cream step-uncle's house

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Milky home black woman

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Laughsome area selfie

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Gay native laser beams

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Gay native laser beams

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Gay native laser beams

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: cowardly organic girlfriend theater stage

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: galvanic cyan queen of the night patrolman

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Indigo Talented Rigpig

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Milky home black woman

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: blue party of the first part

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: appetizing plum temple degenerate

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: irradiated heaven

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: fragrant alcoholic market antidepressant drug

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: blue party of the first part

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: thriller jet-lagged center

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: dull foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: bearded indian lodge

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Wonderful jewess

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Lascivious generalized bond circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: very tactful brunch ladyboy

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Glassy Trip Dilemma Shitlib

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: house-broken site

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Glassy Trip Dilemma Shitlib

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Milky home black woman

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Laughsome area selfie

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Pontificating Pit Legal Warrant

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Glassy Trip Dilemma Shitlib

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Clear station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Carnelian soul-stirring corner mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: house-broken site

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Laughsome area selfie

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Sick gunner

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Milky home black woman

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: bearded indian lodge

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: odious startled trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Milky home black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2E#49053817)