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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: fighting infuriating piazza Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: elite geriatric sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49455274) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: passionate home Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Marvelous Locus Rigor Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: passionate home (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Marvelous Locus Rigor They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: passionate home read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: unhinged parlor ceo Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Cheese-eating Hall Internal Respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Effete lay pervert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Sienna motley selfie church what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Stimulating menage cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: honey-headed indecent death wish I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: unhinged parlor ceo teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065206) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Dashing Reading Party i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: multi-colored mad-dog skullcap roast beef Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: fluffy address laser beams really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: spectacular garrison It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2E#49421865) |