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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
180
Spruce Stead Idiot
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
much more than that
Pale Orchestra Pit
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Adventurous know-it-all state
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Thriller market
  11/09/25
...
Copper Cruise Ship Therapy
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Spruce Stead Idiot
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Massive Area
  11/09/25
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mind-boggling step-uncle's house digit ratio
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
useless field love of her life
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Spruce Stead Idiot
  11/09/25
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internet-worthy chapel volcanic crater
  11/09/25
cr he blows
Curious House
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Ruby Motley Stock Car Garrison
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Ruby Motley Stock Car Garrison
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Racy puppy office
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Honey-headed shitlib black woman
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Disturbing immigrant parlor
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Disturbing immigrant parlor
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Mewling very tactful forum
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
Buff pocket flask center
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Alcoholic Wine Public Bath Death Wish
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Sinister startled university
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Honey-headed shitlib black woman
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Mewling very tactful forum
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Curious House
  11/09/25
*destroying
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Pale Orchestra Pit
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Curious House
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Pale Orchestra Pit
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Razzmatazz location psychic
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
aqua lay
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Mewling very tactful forum
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Disturbing immigrant parlor
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Disturbing immigrant parlor
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Curious House
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Alcoholic Wine Public Bath Death Wish
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
aqua lay
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Saffron Beady-eyed Hell Stain
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Saffron Beady-eyed Hell Stain
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Alcoholic Wine Public Bath Death Wish
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Nubile duck-like theater stage
  11/09/25
lol
Saffron Beady-eyed Hell Stain
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
Cowardly Charismatic Site Useless Brakes
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...
Mewling very tactful forum
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
big-titted locale
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Honey-headed shitlib black woman
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Curious House
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Sinister startled university
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
aqua lay
  11/09/25
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Copper Cruise Ship Therapy
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Nubile duck-like theater stage
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...
Mewling very tactful forum
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Dun Sanctuary Juggernaut
  11/10/25
lol
trip at-the-ready den jap
  11/10/25
Lmao
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  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Spruce Stead Idiot

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Pale Orchestra Pit

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Adventurous know-it-all state

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Thriller market

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Copper Cruise Ship Therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Spruce Stead Idiot

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Massive Area

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: mind-boggling step-uncle's house digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: useless field love of her life

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Spruce Stead Idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: internet-worthy chapel volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Curious House

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Ruby Motley Stock Car Garrison



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Ruby Motley Stock Car Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Racy puppy office

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Honey-headed shitlib black woman

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Disturbing immigrant parlor

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Disturbing immigrant parlor

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Mewling very tactful forum

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Buff pocket flask center

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Alcoholic Wine Public Bath Death Wish

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Sinister startled university

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Honey-headed shitlib black woman

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Mewling very tactful forum

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Curious House

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Pale Orchestra Pit

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Curious House

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Pale Orchestra Pit

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Razzmatazz location psychic

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: aqua lay

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Mewling very tactful forum

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Disturbing immigrant parlor

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Disturbing immigrant parlor

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Curious House

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Alcoholic Wine Public Bath Death Wish

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: aqua lay

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Saffron Beady-eyed Hell Stain

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Saffron Beady-eyed Hell Stain

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Alcoholic Wine Public Bath Death Wish

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Saffron Beady-eyed Hell Stain

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Cowardly Charismatic Site Useless Brakes

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Mewling very tactful forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: big-titted locale

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Honey-headed shitlib black woman

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Curious House

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Sinister startled university

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: aqua lay

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Copper Cruise Ship Therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Nubile duck-like theater stage

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Mewling very tactful forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Dun Sanctuary Juggernaut

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: trip at-the-ready den jap

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Razzmatazz location psychic

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2E#49416774)