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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
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Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
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you can typically just use a voice command ime
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Bistre new version

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Shaky sick pit toilet seat

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Bistre new version

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: sooty hell

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: black haunting idiot

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Bull headed confused hunting ground university

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: black haunting idiot



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Glittery main people



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Bistre new version

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: black haunting idiot

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Bistre new version

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Stirring Den

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Splenetic irradiated station

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Glassy plaza mad-dog skullcap

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Bistre new version

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac sadistic fortuitous meteor coffee pot

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Bistre new version



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Godawful chrome deer antler keepsake machete



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: electric domesticated office regret

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Bistre new version

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Obsidian kitty famous landscape painting

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Bistre new version

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Obsidian kitty famous landscape painting

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: doobsian international law enforcement agency mental disorder

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: black haunting idiot

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: saffron round eye

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Bistre new version

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Stirring Den

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: black haunting idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Shaky sick pit toilet seat

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: avocado gas station

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Shaky sick pit toilet seat

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Bistre new version

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Shaky sick pit toilet seat

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: doobsian international law enforcement agency mental disorder

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Godawful chrome deer antler keepsake machete

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: doobsian international law enforcement agency mental disorder

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Godawful chrome deer antler keepsake machete

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: doobsian international law enforcement agency mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641859)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: saffron round eye

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: avocado gas station

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: doobsian international law enforcement agency mental disorder



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: doobsian international law enforcement agency mental disorder

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Apoplectic Knife Garrison

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Cracking Green Piazza Jewess

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: contagious cyan blood rage

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: dun multi-colored school cafeteria

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Chartreuse pozpig

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Obsidian kitty famous landscape painting

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Fishy queen of the night

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2E#36050530)