Women are exhausted from “mankeeping,” giving up dating (Guardian)
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:09 PM Author: Sick Milky Station Sandwich
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jun/16/mankeeping-why-single-women-are-giving-up-dating
Mankeeping: why single women are giving up dating
As the male social circle continues to shrink, their partners have to take on much more emotional labour – and many are opting to spend their lives alone instead
Mon 16 Jun 2025 09.20 EDT
Name: Mankeeping.
Age: Semantically, about a year old.
Appearance: Needy and exhausting.
Oh God, a new term with the word “man” as a prefix. These are always tedious. Go and cry about it in your man cave, you manspreading mansplainer.
See? It’s a cheap and lazy rhetorical device. Yes, but mankeeping is a real thing: men don’t mankeep; women mankeep.
How so? Increasingly, the dynamic in a heterosexual relationship seems to be that a woman is tasked with coaching her partner through his problems.
I don’t understand. A whole generation of men don’t feel comfortable opening up to their male friends, which means some of them dump their worries on their female partner. It’s an extension of emotional labour – remembering birthdays, organising social calendars – but effectively it requires the partner to act as an unpaid therapist.
Why? The Stanford researchers who coined the term think it’s a result of the so-called male loneliness epidemic. As the social circle of men continues to shrink, their partners bear the brunt of everything that has historically been shared among friends, colleagues and acquaintances.
It’s sweet that you think this is a new phenomenon. OK, fine, some men have always been lousy at this sort of thing. But this is the first time that women are starting to unionise against it.
How? Many of them have stopped dating. In the US, only 38% of single women are on the dating market, compared with 61% of single men, according to the Pew Research Center.
But that will just make men more lonely, which will only exacerbate the problem. Right. The only way to solve this problem is to make women have sex with undesirable men. Way to go, Gilead.
So, what, men should work on themselves instead? Bingo. Perhaps if men weren’t so beholden to ridiculous masculine archetypes and developed a toolkit for processing their emotions, some of this discrepancy would disappear.
And then men would be so desirable that they could go out and pull a load of 10s. I don’t think you’ve got this quite right.
I have. It’s brilliant! If we can convincingly fake emotional regularity, we can have more sex. I think that number just went down to 37%.
Oh fine, you’re right. I am. You shouldn’t need to rely on women to shoulder the burden of your emotional constipation. Get a therapist. Join some clubs. Develop a well-rounded social circle. It will enrich you beyond words.
And then you will have sex with me? Er, 36% and falling.
Do say: “It’s not my job to carry your entire emotional burden.”
Don’t say: “This is exactly why I don’t open up to women.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49024869) |
Date: June 17th, 2025 3:21 PM Author: Diverse Khaki Chad Main People
Study author is not bad looking for an academic.
Guessing plenty of Chads came and went, and she’s frustrated with the Losers who stick around.
Typical Loser Woman.
https://gender.stanford.edu/people/angelica-puzio-ferrara
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Angelica Puzio Ferrara
Angelica Ferrara
Postdoctoral Fellow, 2022-25
Angelica Puzio Ferrara is a developmental and social psychologist at The Clayman Institute for Gender Research at Stanford University. Her writing and research seek to understand how gender ideologies manifest in human behavior throughout the lifespan and across cultures.
Ferrara is primarily interested in how gender norms become fixtures of our social and emotional worlds. In her doctoral work, she used natural language recordings to document how raced and classed gender ideologies are embodied in the language use of adolescent girls and boys. Some of Ferrara’s previous graduate research in The Journal of Adolescence deals with how gender norms may affect children’s and adolescents’ abilities to be direct about thoughts, opinions, and emotions with others. Together with scholars at the Toward Gender Harmony Project, Ferrara has explored the culturally situated nature of gender stereotypes in 62 nations through collaborations in Social Psychological and Personality Science, The Journal of Cross-Cultural Psychology, and The European Journal of Social Psychology.
A second stream of her research investigates ideological influences on the gendered economy of work. For example, Ferrara’s research in Psychology of Men and Masculinities has addressed why gender disparities persist in occupations that have been culturally “feminized,” such as early childhood education, healthcare, and domestic roles. While at Stanford, Ferrara is also completing a visiting fellowship at the London School of Economics and Political Science, where she works to understand barriers to women’s and other marginalized groups’ advancement at workplaces in the United Kingdom.
Ferrara’s postdoctoral work is Men Without Men, a book that examines boys’ and men’s friendships across history and cultures. This work illuminates how cultural conceptions of manhood became incongruent with men’s needs for close, intimate bonds, leading many men to report that they have very few or no close friends. Drawing on the voices of men and boys who defy this pattern of loneliness, Ferrara uncovers how the state of men’s friendships became so fractured, who pays the price for men’s social isolation, and how these dynamics can be disrupted. Men Without Men will be published by Simon and Schuster in the United States and Penguin Random House in the United Kingdom and Canada.
Ferrara comes to The Clayman Institute after completing her Ph.D. at New York University, where she was part of the global fellowship program at NYU’s London center. Ferrara’s writing on the intersection of gender and culture has been published in The Washington Post, Teen Vogue, and FiveThirtyEight, and her work has been featured by The Economist and The American Psychological Association.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49024921) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:30 PM Author: harsh razzmatazz filthpig
Pirkei Avot 1:5
Yose ben Yochanan (a man) of Jerusalem used to say: Engage not in too much conversation with women. They said this with regard to one’s own wife, how much more [does the rule apply] with regard to another man’s wife. From here the Sages said: as long as a man engages in too much conversation with women, he causes evil to himself, he neglects the study of the Torah, and in the end he will inherit gehinnom.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49024962)
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:27 PM Author: Chestnut market
what's happening is that whiny men are a turn off to these women but they can't admit that because that wouldn't be nice and would fly in the face of all the 'men need to be sensitive' propaganda and the 'men can't have male-only spaces' propaganda, so instead they change it around so their not wanting to fuck whiny betas becomes not a sign that they're shallow, but a form of emotional extortion practiced against them. By dumping these guys they're not being shallow, they're liberating themselves!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49024946)
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Date: June 17th, 2025 3:40 PM Author: Onyx Den
how many women even buy into this slop anymore?
i feel like these articles are now posted as ragebait for clicks more than they're posted to be read by an actually receptive audience
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49025008) |
Date: June 17th, 2025 3:59 PM Author: anal splenetic field
When men complain about the quality of women available to them: "Improve yourself for access to better mates!"
When women complain about the quality of men available to them: "Men today are trash!"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49025048) |
Date: June 18th, 2025 9:20 PM Author: Vengeful Telephone Locale
I think this might be CR, sadly. I have no desire to go out in public anymore without having a gf/wife. I don't care to go drinking with my "bros" anymore I just want to have a family and meet other families and stuff in a community or something. My only extended conversations are with BROS I am sick of talking to other MEN
my life plan is to make $ and try to look as good as possible and maybe some retarded woman saves me from this hellish reality
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49030172) |
Date: June 18th, 2025 10:46 PM Author: Primrose location
>>>"How so? Increasingly, the dynamic in a heterosexual relationship seems to be that a woman is tasked with coaching her partner through his problems."
Yet somehow when this same dynamic occurs with an older successful man coaching an attractive young female through her problems, he's "controlling" and "exploiting" her and she's living a "less full life" because she doesn't get to make her own mistakes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49030394) |
Date: June 19th, 2025 7:11 AM Author: Alcoholic Flesh Stage Partner
"Increasingly, the dynamic in a heterosexual relationship seems to be that a woman is tasked with coaching her partner through his problems.
I don’t understand. A whole generation of men don’t feel comfortable opening up to their male friends, which means some of them dump their worries on their female partner. It’s an extension of emotional labour – remembering birthdays, organising social calendars – but effectively it requires the partner to act as an unpaid therapist."
It's insane to me that women are complaining about this.
Providing emotional support to your partner is one of the most important- and rewarding- things you can do in a relationship. I'd say its of equal importance as regular sex for men because (as they point out here) most men don't have the kind of emotional support networks that women do. And working through this kind of stuff brings couples closer together.
Some people will bitch about anything, I guess.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49031234) |
Date: June 19th, 2025 8:20 AM Author: Violent step-uncle's house pistol
the caption of the lead stock photo says all you need to know about birdbrain slopmedia like this: "If only he’d join the squash club"
these women are so vapid that they unironically see this as a solution. like playing squash once or twice a week is really the sort of connection that men are seeking. because they are just fine on their own with their bookclub and cats, so why aren't you? what more could there be?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739320&forum_id=2E#49031362) |
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