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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
bistre sex offender famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
high-end thriller immigrant
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Yellow fanboi mexican
  06/15/18
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Thirsty Concupiscible Field
  06/15/18
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Thirsty Concupiscible Field
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
bipolar circlehead sanctuary
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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  02/12/22
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Martin Skhreli
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
Twinkling cocky nowag
  06/15/18
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Thirsty Concupiscible Field
  06/15/18
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Amber narrow-minded library sandwich
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Twinkling cocky nowag
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
fragrant multi-billionaire
  06/15/18
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obsidian trailer park
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Thirsty Concupiscible Field
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
mind-boggling yapping haunted graveyard
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
irate hell boiling water
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Beady-eyed associate
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
bipolar circlehead sanctuary
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Twinkling cocky nowag
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obsidian trailer park
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Amber narrow-minded library sandwich
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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  06/15/18
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Beady-eyed associate
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Amber narrow-minded library sandwich
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impressive rigpig location
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is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
pearly appetizing french chef
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
bistre sex offender famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Mauve Laughsome Queen Of The Night People Who Are Hurt
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
bistre sex offender famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Mauve Laughsome Queen Of The Night People Who Are Hurt
  06/15/18
Explain
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impressive rigpig location
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
sexy state
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
Big liquid oxygen garrison
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Trip fear-inspiring locus
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Amber narrow-minded library sandwich
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bistre sex offender famous landscape painting
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Aromatic offensive half-breed business firm
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
supple piazza
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
bistre sex offender famous landscape painting
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
Shaky Lilac Faggot Firefighter Temple
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
bistre sex offender famous landscape painting
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
Shaky Lilac Faggot Firefighter Temple
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
bistre sex offender famous landscape painting
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
kink-friendly pontificating pisswyrm
  02/12/21
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Trip fear-inspiring locus
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Aromatic offensive half-breed business firm
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
kink-friendly pontificating pisswyrm
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
Big-titted ladyboy corn cake
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
kink-friendly pontificating pisswyrm
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Big-titted ladyboy corn cake
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
supple piazza
  02/12/21
lol no
Mint feces
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
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Diverse saffron school cafeteria
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  10/06/21
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: high-end thriller immigrant

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Yellow fanboi mexican

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Thirsty Concupiscible Field



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Thirsty Concupiscible Field



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: bipolar circlehead sanctuary

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: exciting stubborn azn elastic band

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Martin Skhreli ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Twinkling cocky nowag

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Thirsty Concupiscible Field



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Amber narrow-minded library sandwich



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Twinkling cocky nowag

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: fragrant multi-billionaire

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: obsidian trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253024)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Thirsty Concupiscible Field

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: mind-boggling yapping haunted graveyard

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: irate hell boiling water

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Beady-eyed associate

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: bipolar circlehead sanctuary

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Twinkling cocky nowag

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: obsidian trailer park



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Amber narrow-minded library sandwich



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Wonderful Bossy Dysfunction

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Thirsty Concupiscible Field



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Yellow fanboi mexican



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Amber narrow-minded library sandwich



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Amber narrow-minded library sandwich

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Beady-eyed associate



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: impressive rigpig location



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Amber narrow-minded library sandwich



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: impressive rigpig location



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: pearly appetizing french chef

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Mauve Laughsome Queen Of The Night People Who Are Hurt

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Mauve Laughsome Queen Of The Night People Who Are Hurt

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: impressive rigpig location



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: sexy state

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Big liquid oxygen garrison

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Trip fear-inspiring locus



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Amber narrow-minded library sandwich



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Aromatic offensive half-breed business firm

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: supple piazza

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Shaky Lilac Faggot Firefighter Temple

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Shaky Lilac Faggot Firefighter Temple

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: kink-friendly pontificating pisswyrm

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Trip fear-inspiring locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41933950)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Aromatic offensive half-breed business firm

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: kink-friendly pontificating pisswyrm

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Big-titted ladyboy corn cake

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: kink-friendly pontificating pisswyrm

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Big-titted ladyboy corn cake

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: supple piazza

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Mint feces

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Overrated factory reset button prole

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Diverse saffron school cafeteria



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: violet puppy

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2E#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: bistre sex offender famous landscape painting



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