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seems like we are close to Civil War

a state seeking a restraining order against the POTUS milita...
Alcoholic hyperactive kitchen roast beef
  06/10/25
civil war isn't really possible when the military is as powe...
supple pungent sneaky criminal whorehouse
  06/10/25
It's just a question of which side the military will pick. ...
Purple mildly autistic chapel
  06/10/25
you listen to alex jones?
supple pungent sneaky criminal whorehouse
  06/10/25
He's right like 20%of the time and entertaining during the o...
Purple mildly autistic chapel
  06/10/25
Flip those percentages but CR
Offensive Pontificating Casino Dysfunction
  06/10/25
The military works for who politically is in power. Their jo...
razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin
  06/10/25
rofl this is retarded take, they dont WORK for any individua...
amber self-absorbed sex offender
  06/10/25
rofl at you friend. rofl at you.
razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin
  06/10/25
tell us more about the US constitution and American principl...
zombie-like disgusting patrolman
  06/10/25
You CANNOT redeem!
fantasy-prone jewess
  06/10/25
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seedy national
  06/10/25
JAG attorneys will tell the troops they don't have to do shi...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
Maybe. But the question is many will WANT to do "shit&q...
razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin
  06/10/25
They'll be a tiny minority, and it won't matter because the ...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
no one cares what jewish lawyers have to say. Trump can just...
Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace
  06/10/25
You were probably predicting the National Guard would do som...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
Nobody listens to JAGs ever FYI
Stimulating hall mediation
  06/10/25
Oh yes they do. Otherwise Hegseth wouldn't have to fire them...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
LOL
Stimulating hall mediation
  06/10/25
JAG HERE, Nobody WANTS to listen to us, but they know tha...
heady clear coffee pot
  06/10/25
They wouldn't hate you if it weren't true.
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
this may be the biggest cope I've ever seen i watched a C...
provocative psychic hell
  06/10/25
You're lucky until you're not. But yes realistically what ar...
razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin
  06/10/25
You get sued and it wrecks your career because the governmen...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
PS plenty of ex-JAGs will handle the plaintiff-side shit. Ev...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
Hegemon the valor thief thinks he can still convince people ...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
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provocative psychic hell
  06/10/25
lol the US military would take off their uniforms like the A...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
Good. Fuck it.
Learning disabled milk space
  06/10/25
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obsidian big round eye base
  06/11/25
there would be many small skirmishes and violent mobs before...
Marvelous cuckoldry ticket booth
  06/10/25
When skirmishes?
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
Civil war here or anywhere in the modern era is regional
razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin
  06/10/25
right and it'll percolate for a bit before it goes off. summ...
Marvelous cuckoldry ticket booth
  06/10/25
95% of the country won't be affected
razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin
  06/10/25
No war is civil
mint tattoo
  06/10/25
There won't be a war because one side won't even put up a fi...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
so whenver there is any protest against the FEDS the POTUS c...
amber self-absorbed sex offender
  06/10/25
Call the national guard! *nothing happens*
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
when you have a federal building and an ongoing deportation ...
Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace
  06/10/25
I thought you were upset about people burning cars.
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
you are severely mentally ill. the idea that you may actuall...
Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace
  06/10/25
Anyway I'm sure Trump will do something about it.
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
ideally DOGE will fire and deport you. clearly you were/are...
Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace
  06/11/25
I'm afraid of being arrested by the FBI
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/11/25
why?
Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace
  06/11/25
Cons keep telling me I'm going to be thrown in a Salvadoran ...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/11/25
Then you probably deserve to be
Carnelian Cruise Ship Circlehead
  06/11/25
this is all just bullshit drivel, it literally was some bean...
amber self-absorbed sex offender
  06/10/25
Half the US Marines speak Spanish natively. They are more li...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
take ur gaslighting back to wechat
zombie-like disgusting patrolman
  06/10/25
they blocked the fucking interstate you dipshit. ICE needs ...
Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace
  06/10/25
not close, nowhere close to hot enough 2020 levels of vio...
provocative psychic hell
  06/10/25
Going to be hard to get to 2020 levels of violence without U...
Offensive Pontificating Casino Dysfunction
  06/10/25
You've got a trillion dollar military budget, wtf are you ta...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/10/25
gonna take a good bit of time for things to ramp back up to ...
provocative psychic hell
  06/10/25
Hard to replicate without the govt paying people to stay hom...
Curious Location Foreskin
  06/11/25
The EU will fund this. Seriously.
obsidian big round eye base
  06/11/25
https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/1932613631977374141?t=G_6CHJ...
Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage
  06/11/25
If CA actually withholds tax revenue from the feds that will...
Galvanic nudist senate becky
  06/11/25
only World War can save us from Civil War- take your pick
Nubile trip boistinker stage
  06/11/25


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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:51 PM
Author: Alcoholic hyperactive kitchen roast beef

a state seeking a restraining order against the POTUS military deployments has gotta signify something. except the "civil" part is kinda nebulous, more like foreigners vs "Americans" afaict.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002915)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:51 PM
Author: supple pungent sneaky criminal whorehouse

civil war isn't really possible when the military is as powerful as it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002919)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Purple mildly autistic chapel

It's just a question of which side the military will pick. Alex Jones is saying this whole thing is being ginned up because Trump wouldn't attack Iran. Libs are working with the military to create some fake "constitutional crisis" so the military can stage a coup and restore "OUR democracy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002933)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:56 PM
Author: supple pungent sneaky criminal whorehouse

you listen to alex jones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002937)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Purple mildly autistic chapel

He's right like 20%of the time and entertaining during the other 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002944)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Offensive Pontificating Casino Dysfunction

Flip those percentages but CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003564)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin

The military works for who politically is in power. Their job isn't to stop the politicians who take over. It's only to stop them when they're trying to take over. Which is a key distinction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002959)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: amber self-absorbed sex offender

rofl this is retarded take, they dont WORK for any individual u faggot, they legally cannot and shld not obey an unconstitutional order, if trump said to go rape big butted latinos in LA that violates the big butted latino clause in Article I, tehy canot comply

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003036)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:25 PM
Author: razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin

rofl at you friend. rofl at you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003045)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: zombie-like disgusting patrolman

tell us more about the US constitution and American principles, pajeet in thailand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003055)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: fantasy-prone jewess

You CANNOT redeem!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003067)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 7:37 PM
Author: seedy national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003403)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

JAG attorneys will tell the troops they don't have to do shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003071)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin

Maybe. But the question is many will WANT to do "shit"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003083)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

They'll be a tiny minority, and it won't matter because the JAGs are exposing them to personal liability if they step out of line. Trump can't un-write DOD's internal legal memos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003096)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace

no one cares what jewish lawyers have to say. Trump can just tell them to fuck off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003102)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

You were probably predicting the National Guard would do something two days ago. Now you're just whining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003111)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Stimulating hall mediation

Nobody listens to JAGs ever FYI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003103)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

Oh yes they do. Otherwise Hegseth wouldn't have to fire them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003106)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 7:47 PM
Author: Stimulating hall mediation

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003427)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 8:42 PM
Author: heady clear coffee pot

JAG HERE,

Nobody WANTS to listen to us, but they know that if shit goes down, they won't have any legal protection when we clearly (and probably repeatedly) told them not to do it.

TL;DR- BUFF AS FUCK CombatBros have to suck our big black legal cocks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003548)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

They wouldn't hate you if it weren't true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003563)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: provocative psychic hell

this may be the biggest cope I've ever seen

i watched a COL in Syria tell a JAG to go fuck himself and we ignored everything the JAG tried to tell us we had to do

JAG whined to CJTF OIR and SOCOM

nothing happened to any of us, that COL is about to pick up his first star

you all exist as window dressing, no one actually has to do what you say, gets ignored all the time -- basically just PAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003608)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin

You're lucky until you're not. But yes realistically what are the odds of getting prosecuted for anything? Not much. In a dictator power grab junta coup... Even less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003658)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

You get sued and it wrecks your career because the government has to spend the next five years defending your ass. The last thing they want is "Colonel" published court opinion so they are anxious to settle, and it can be expensive because of fee shifting statutes.

Can we get more color commentary on this from Hegemon the valor thief?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003671)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 9:33 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

PS plenty of ex-JAGs will handle the plaintiff-side shit. Even with a law degree Hegemon would be as useless as tits on Gabourey Sidibe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003676)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 9:27 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

Hegemon the valor thief thinks he can still convince people he served ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003665)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: provocative psychic hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003614)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

lol the US military would take off their uniforms like the Afghan National Army. Look at what's happening right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003558)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Learning disabled milk space

Good. Fuck it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002924)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: obsidian big round eye base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49005803)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Marvelous cuckoldry ticket booth

there would be many small skirmishes and violent mobs before a civil war started.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002932)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:59 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

When skirmishes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002950)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin

Civil war here or anywhere in the modern era is regional

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002973)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: Marvelous cuckoldry ticket booth

right and it'll percolate for a bit before it goes off. summer of floyd x 20 before "oh shit civil war?" becomes a real concern.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003020)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: razzmatazz aquamarine stage cumskin

95% of the country won't be affected

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003050)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: mint tattoo

No war is civil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002946)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

There won't be a war because one side won't even put up a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002948)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: amber self-absorbed sex offender

so whenver there is any protest against the FEDS the POTUS can just call out the NATIONAL GUARD and even the MARINES? sounds like a good policy, POTUS AOC shld send a trannie brigade of MARINES to a CHRISTIAN rally in Alabama on the grounds its anti NIGGA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002958)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

Call the national guard! *nothing happens*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002961)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace

when you have a federal building and an ongoing deportation process to defend and the Gov and mayor of the city won't defend it and are actively undermining their efforts then the feds are left with few options.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002969)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:05 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

I thought you were upset about people burning cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49002975)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace

you are severely mentally ill. the idea that you may actually be employed by the federal government in any capacity is very troubling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003093)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

Anyway I'm sure Trump will do something about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003105)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace

ideally DOGE will fire and deport you. clearly you were/are worried about that happening which is why you've been on a schizo tear for months now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49004727)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

I'm afraid of being arrested by the FBI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49004732)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 9:27 AM
Author: Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49004735)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

Cons keep telling me I'm going to be thrown in a Salvadoran gulag, and they wouldn't make empty threats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49005808)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 9:37 AM
Author: Carnelian Cruise Ship Circlehead

Then you probably deserve to be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49004753)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: amber self-absorbed sex offender

this is all just bullshit drivel, it literally was some beaners protesting and half of them were just there selling hot dogs and sombreros on the side and trump was like THIS IS WAR WE ARE CALLING IN THE MARINES

rofl, the US is so stupid, why do idiots have to pretend what trump does MUST have a legit purpose? the furking "shitlib" media even does this, its lolzsy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003028)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

Half the US Marines speak Spanish natively. They are more likely to grab some tacos and join the festivities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003065)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: zombie-like disgusting patrolman

take ur gaslighting back to wechat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003069)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 5:36 PM
Author: Gold concupiscible trailer park electric furnace

they blocked the fucking interstate you dipshit. ICE needs to be able to deport as many people as possible as quickly as possible. it's a matter essential to national security to get as many mexicans, chinks and indians out of this country asap and these idiots are interfering with the ongoing process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003100)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 6:37 PM
Author: provocative psychic hell

not close, nowhere close to hot enough

2020 levels of violence in current political climate might get us a bit closer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003259)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Offensive Pontificating Casino Dysfunction

Going to be hard to get to 2020 levels of violence without USAID funding it this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003569)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

You've got a trillion dollar military budget, wtf are you talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003576)



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Date: June 10th, 2025 9:04 PM
Author: provocative psychic hell

gonna take a good bit of time for things to ramp back up to those levels

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49003618)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Curious Location Foreskin

Hard to replicate without the govt paying people to stay home from work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49006270)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: obsidian big round eye base

The EU will fund this. Seriously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49005806)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 9:48 AM
Author: Twinkling Free-loading Death Wish Old Irish Cottage

https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/1932613631977374141?t=G_6CHJAnHc_dVdRWCu3lzQ&s=19

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49004778)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Galvanic nudist senate becky

If CA actually withholds tax revenue from the feds that will be the match that lights the powder keg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49005810)



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Date: June 11th, 2025 4:56 PM
Author: Nubile trip boistinker stage

only World War can save us from Civil War- take your pick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5735765&forum_id=2E#49006277)