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Finished Bukowski's Ham on Rye (1982)

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is appa...
Contagious school cafeteria philosopher-king
  06/17/25
Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded fag...
Outnumbered drunken cruise ship mother
  06/17/25
This is exactly what Bukowski would say.
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Multi-colored degenerate
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This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idioti...
Slate Galvanic Location Mad-dog Skullcap
  06/17/25
whoa crr
Hairraiser Selfie
  06/17/25
MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and je...
Outnumbered drunken cruise ship mother
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The distinction between my response and his might be that he...
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Contagious school cafeteria philosopher-king
  06/17/25
id like some elaboration here
Glittery ticket booth
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Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggress...
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“I’m a kike!” How groundbreaking. You m...
Outnumbered drunken cruise ship mother
  06/17/25
That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.
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Date: June 17th, 2025 6:21 AM
Author: Contagious school cafeteria philosopher-king

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is apparently his most famous novel along with his first, Post Office. It is a semi-autobiographical novel about his youth - born in Germany, raised in Los Angeles, always a poor outsider, wisecracking and fast talking, his loves were alcohol and writing. He developed terrible acne as a teenager which made his outsider status worse but even that was something he accepted and suffered through.

The book is lovely, an easy and flowing read. Bukowski discusses the difficulties of life and he does it in a wry, direct, honest and disarming style. One can’t help but love the guy - he’s got such a defined voice.

He states that he’s neither a misanthrope nor a misogynist in the book, and I think at least the second part is true for him - for the first, he uses alcohol to dull the pain of existence. However, Bukowski, for all his self-loathing and rawness, seemed to channel his suffering into a grudging acceptance of the human animal - ugly, dirty, and laughable, yes, but not necessarily evil. He’s disillusioned, yes, but rarely metaphysically embittered. The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

I’ve read all of Bukowkski’s poetry online (https://www.best-poems.net/charles_bukowski/index.html) and will continue to read more of his works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2E#49023314)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:17 AM
Author: Outnumbered drunken cruise ship mother

Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded faggot.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:20 AM
Author: brilliant deep orchestra pit

This is exactly what Bukowski would say.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Contagious school cafeteria philosopher-king



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:33 AM
Author: Glittery ticket booth



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:37 AM
Author: Odious gay wizard meetinghouse



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: confused corner liquid oxygen



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:39 AM
Author: Multi-colored degenerate



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Slate Galvanic Location Mad-dog Skullcap

This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idiotic faggot. Kill yourself.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Hairraiser Selfie

whoa crr

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:19 AM
Author: Outnumbered drunken cruise ship mother

MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and jewish

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Aqua Hell Tattoo

The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2E#49023382)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Contagious school cafeteria philosopher-king



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Glittery ticket booth

id like some elaboration here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2E#49023391)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Contagious school cafeteria philosopher-king

Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggressive and never respected my emotional red lines, which felt on a subconscious level, to a young child, like deep betrayal and which has warped my relationship with all women thereafter.

My philosophical pessimism and gnosticism is well documented here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2E#49023397)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:40 AM
Author: Outnumbered drunken cruise ship mother

“I’m a kike!”

How groundbreaking. You might be the next bukowski.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2E#49023457)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: Violent Library

That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: Useless autistic field indirect expression



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Date: June 17th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: Contagious school cafeteria philosopher-king



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