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The importance of EPIGENETIC INHERITANCE is underestimated right now imo

I'm about 15 years late but I only found out earlier this ye...
navy library philosopher-king
  05/13/26
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180 legend
  05/13/26
epigenetics isn't real lamarkianism isn't real it's li...
Crystalline school cafeteria knife
  05/13/26
I appreciate this poast-moniker synergy FWIW
180 legend
  05/13/26
Why do you say that, and do you have an alternative mechanis...
navy library philosopher-king
  05/13/26
that's the 1 study that everyone cites and it's not clear at...
Crystalline school cafeteria knife
  05/13/26
This SUPERSTUDYAZN 10-year-old replicated it: https://youtu....
navy library philosopher-king
  05/13/26
jfc lol come on now
Crystalline school cafeteria knife
  05/13/26
That elementary school science project absolutely proved my ...
navy library philosopher-king
  05/13/26
All it means is the environment influences gene expression. ...
French Mint Doctorate Boltzmann
  05/13/26
Maybe he just means the inheritance part
navy library philosopher-king
  05/13/26
yup, see above
Crystalline school cafeteria knife
  05/13/26
The gene expression of parents effects gene expression of ch...
French Mint Doctorate Boltzmann
  05/13/26
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navy library philosopher-king
  05/13/26
cr. and environment (~"experiences") influence wh...
Turquoise razzmatazz space
  05/14/26
OP is a gullible bird brain
Talented dingle berry garrison
  05/13/26
This all seems like bullshit that will be used to argue that...
startling dilemma toaster
  05/13/26
Well yes it will probably be used that way but it's also rea...
navy library philosopher-king
  05/13/26
that's already what they've been trying to do with it for fo...
Crystalline school cafeteria knife
  05/13/26
It’s complete pseudoscience
startling dilemma toaster
  05/14/26
Epigenetic inheritance is almost entirely flame, based off o...
ruby partner
  05/13/26
bingo
Crystalline school cafeteria knife
  05/13/26
Wdym shitty animal models
navy library philosopher-king
  05/13/26
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startling dilemma toaster
  05/14/26
Asian people, what is it like to have "ancestor memorie...
angry orchid boiling water indirect expression
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Shivering Piazza
  05/16/26
good discussion topic tyft
Turquoise razzmatazz space
  05/13/26
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180 legend
  05/14/26
Thoughts on braincum theory?
Chartreuse Passionate Turdskin
  05/14/26
I think basically everything that could possibly function li...
Shivering Piazza
  05/16/26
Cr it resets everything anyways
Crystalline school cafeteria knife
  05/16/26


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Date: May 13th, 2026 7:56 PM
Author: navy library philosopher-king

I'm about 15 years late but I only found out earlier this year that learned behaviors can be inherited genetically. Individuals' experiences cause epigenetic changes that get passed on to their offspring. I thought the idea of ANCESTOR MEMORIES was kinda kooky before, but it's literally been proven that (physiological impacts of) our experiences get encoded onto our genome.

I always found it difficult to wrap my head around how animals could develop hyperspecific behaviors relatively quickly just through random mutations and selection. Not denying that evolution through selection is real and explains changes in species over long time periods, but my intuition is that the epigenetic inheritance piece of the puzzle blows up our previous understanding of how we evolve behaviorally. I think it'll prove to be more of a thing the more complex a species' behavior is.

Discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884373)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: 180 legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884377)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:02 PM
Author: Crystalline school cafeteria knife

epigenetics isn't real

lamarkianism isn't real

it's literally just fake shitlib bullshit lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884382)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:03 PM
Author: 180 legend

I appreciate this poast-moniker synergy FWIW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884386)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:06 PM
Author: navy library philosopher-king

Why do you say that, and do you have an alternative mechanism by which mice and insects may pass on learned aversions through multiple generations? e.g. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3923835

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884392)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:16 PM
Author: Crystalline school cafeteria knife

that's the 1 study that everyone cites and it's not clear at all what the actual mechanism is and nobody has replicated it afaik

i mean it's just bullshit on its face. it's shitlib wishcasting because they don't want darwinian evolution to be real, for all the shitlib reasons

you can spend like 15 minutes with an LLM and even the turbo shitlib LLMs will admit that epigenetics is BS. of course they will fall back on mealy-mouthed "erm well ackshually it's true that environment can change an individual's genetic expression," but that's not what anyone means when they talk about "epigenetics." what they're talking about is inheritance by the next generation(s)

it's a dishonest conflation by libs. many such cases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884429)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:19 PM
Author: navy library philosopher-king

This SUPERSTUDYAZN 10-year-old replicated it: https://youtu.be/nhESxrqPjfU

QED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884435)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: Crystalline school cafeteria knife

jfc lol come on now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884440)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: navy library philosopher-king

That elementary school science project absolutely proved my point beyond refutation, what do you mean come on now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884468)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:07 PM
Author: French Mint Doctorate Boltzmann

All it means is the environment influences gene expression. It's nbd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884394)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: navy library philosopher-king

Maybe he just means the inheritance part

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884401)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:16 PM
Author: Crystalline school cafeteria knife

yup, see above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884431)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:24 PM
Author: French Mint Doctorate Boltzmann

The gene expression of parents effects gene expression of children. There's no change in the DNA. This seems easy to understand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884438)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: navy library philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884516)



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Date: May 14th, 2026 9:31 AM
Author: Turquoise razzmatazz space

cr. and environment (~"experiences") influence which genes get expressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49885013)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:05 PM
Author: Talented dingle berry garrison

OP is a gullible bird brain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884388)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:12 PM
Author: startling dilemma toaster

This all seems like bullshit that will be used to argue that like people in 2040 have holocaust trauma etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884413)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:16 PM
Author: navy library philosopher-king

Well yes it will probably be used that way but it's also real.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884430)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:24 PM
Author: Crystalline school cafeteria knife

that's already what they've been trying to do with it for forever. holocaust, anti-semitism, racism, etc

that's why you gotta take a hard line on this stuff and give it no quarter. it's not real, period, and everyone who pushes it is a dishonest shitlib and should be called out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884437)



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Date: May 14th, 2026 9:56 AM
Author: startling dilemma toaster

It’s complete pseudoscience



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49885063)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:15 PM
Author: ruby partner

Epigenetic inheritance is almost entirely flame, based off of shitty animal models (that don't even replicate), and is basically just shitlibs trying to revive Lysenkoism to back their shitlib politics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884425)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:17 PM
Author: Crystalline school cafeteria knife

bingo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884432)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:21 PM
Author: navy library philosopher-king

Wdym shitty animal models

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884436)



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Date: May 14th, 2026 9:54 AM
Author: startling dilemma toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49885060)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: angry orchid boiling water indirect expression

Asian people, what is it like to have "ancestor memories"?

Asian people evolved for tens of thousands of years on the steppes of Central Asia before being chased out into modern-day China and Japan due to decreasing rains.

As a result, they maintain an atavistic Lamarckian node of memory that both animates their dreams and haunts their nightmares.

Asians, what is it like to dream of open steppes that you have never visited before, but can see just as clearly as though they surrounded you?

What is it like to dream of "The Great Thirst" that drove your people across the mountain ranges of western China? Or when you dream of empty streams and dying horses?

There are many accounts of far-flung Asians (like Japanese-Brazilians) visiting the steppes of Kazakhstan for the first time, and collapsing to their knees with overflowing tears, as though they have returned to a homeland of their dreams.

Asians, what is it like to bear along these ancestor memories of grasslands and endless steppes that constantly intrude into your mindspace?

The celebrated poet Wu-Ping Liu (considered one of the "Five Great Masters of Fujian" and also the most lyrical among them) wrote in "The Book of Nine Waters" that "My day is the day of ceaseless rivers and reeds, and the turtle in the sedge. My night is the night of riverbeds and lone ducks dying on dry flats of mud."

Western scholars tried to interpret this as a veiled political argument, but new research indicates that he was speaking of ancestor memory and pan-Asian drought dreams.

one of the interesting behaviors among asians is something called "seeking the plain," which has been noted by sociologists for decades.

if you have a housing development of asians in a forested area, but there is a large treeless hilltop or plain nearby, the asians will migrate out of the trees, to the plain, and will even set up restaurants and shops and tents there.

when asked why they are "seeking the plain," they simply do not know - just that it "feels right."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884442)



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Date: May 16th, 2026 9:08 PM
Author: Shivering Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49887156)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:42 PM
Author: Turquoise razzmatazz space

good discussion topic tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884679)



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Date: May 14th, 2026 12:33 AM
Author: 180 legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884712)



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Date: May 14th, 2026 12:43 AM
Author: Chartreuse Passionate Turdskin

Thoughts on braincum theory?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49884720)



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Date: May 16th, 2026 9:12 PM
Author: Shivering Piazza

I think basically everything that could possibly function like epigenetic inheritance gets steamrolled by the fetal environment, which becomes the de facto sole non-genetic factor in development.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49887158)



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Date: May 16th, 2026 9:14 PM
Author: Crystalline school cafeteria knife

Cr it resets everything anyways

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866438&forum_id=2PHPSESSID=49d358651cc27ec1964643c2a7b5ece2#49887159)