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Chatgpt pro ($200/month) is 100% worth it in LAW
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:23 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. All bluebook citations are accurate, filing is crisp, 40+ page startlingly intricate and accurate law. Prompt was three/four long paragraphs detailing precisely what I wanted--not some offhand find it shit from a partner, PLEASE note. I had a lot of familiarity with the subject.
But wow. Wow wow wow. 30 mins and it generated a masterpiece. Litigators who naysay it are either 1) poor prompt engineers (likely) 2) too cheap/poor to afford pro |
Date: August 13th, 2025 4:25 PM Author: Faggottini Ok nigger I'm going to try it but if it churns out slop i'm going to furk your pumo ass no condom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182286) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:26 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. ONLY use pro research grade, only the $200 month one, and PLEASE give very detailed instructions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182288) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:29 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. AND also tell it how long you want response to be and be prepared to wait at least 30 mins if sufficiently complex. You can also paste in deposition transcripts etc. Pretty much unlimited space to paste ANYTHING you need to give it MORE CONTEXT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182294) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:30 PM Author: DOWNtonABBEYfan6969420 HOW WILL IT PROTECT CLIENT CONFIDENCES??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182302) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:32 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. Yeah who gives a fuck at this point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182306) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:33 PM Author: The Wandering Mercatores (from the Euphrates to the Forum) never used it for law (not a lawyer) but its lol how 180 good it is in general. anyone here who isn't a lawyer or whatever should quit their job immediately get a subscription and use it to start a one man business. you can literally do shit that would take months and a team in like days. i used it to design an experiment in pytorch that I ran for a few days and it generated a folder of like 100 graphs and dozens of parquet and json files worth of data. It took me like maybe 2 hours to refine a script that did all of that, probably would have taken weeks to write and debut it last year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182310) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:35 PM Author: chill internet user with one static pseudonym (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182315) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:36 PM Author: DOWNtonABBEYfan6969420 Please explain in a way that a lawyer can understand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182316) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:59 PM Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐) CHATGBT FILE THOSE BRIEFS FOR THE FUCKLAW CASE OR I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU NIGGER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182370) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:29 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. I know joking, but if you're absolutely scorched earth in criticism it beautifully handles those with precision and ease. Much better than handlng to some associate you have to treat with kid gloves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182472) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: chill internet user with one static pseudonym yeah if you're doing anything real you gotta use a reasoning model and have it think a long time
you should basically write the prompt like an email instruction to an assistant, too. give it as much context as possible. you can just ask it how to best prompt it btw. in general the best way to figure out the best way to get what you want from AI is to ask the AI |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:47 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182347) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: cowshit Aren’t all Litigators Poor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182322) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:48 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. Some work in biglaw, friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182350) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:49 PM Author: No Paye No Gain I/my office write maybe 5 briefs a year. Basic car wreck/summary judgment shit. Worth it?
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:56 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182366) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:00 PM Author: No Paye No Gain 180. On it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182373) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:14 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. o3 pro was 18000000 x's better than associates. I don't even care about them anymore (am SA) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182418) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:34 PM Author: scholarship You can just buy a month of it at a time for a case. Might even could bill to the client now that I think of it idk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182502) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:43 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. I've definitely used it for research in billing. Obviously you dont say used gpt but IMO it's saving clients a fuckload of time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182529) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:51 PM Author: Dave Prole It's fine at raw analysis and legal research but still majorly sucks at writing anything from scratch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182357) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:58 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. *using thinking version ($20/month) rather than research grade intelligence ($200/month)*
Hey i do it all the time because thinking version takes WAY less time. |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:15 PM Author: Dave Prole I use $200/month, and 4.5 is better at legal drafting than pro o3, (or o5). And all of them are much worse at drafting legal briefs, discovery etc. than Gemini Pro 2.5. Gemini is worse than Paxton.AI. None of them will cite check as good as Lexis Protege.
To fully mitigate any risk of malpractice or looking like an idiot when using AI to shitlaw you need to use at least 5 different AI platforms simultaneously IME. |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:00 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) I've found the opposite; the vast majority of its current utility is in the standard searches that you can get for $20/mo. (To be clear: (a) no fucking lawyer is too poor to pay $200/mo. version; and (b) everyone should in fact get pro, for several reasons, probably first among them that you'll develop the best user skills that keep you most abreast of the tech as it advances.) Pro still 100% does not find magic-bullet fact-to-fact cases that you still need to do 3 hours of drudge work for. It is still maddeningly lazy about refusing -- outright refusing! -- to pull **every** federal districts' jury plan to look for certain language and categorize certain commonalities ("here's a table showing 8 plans! let me know if you want me to keep looking!").
The REAL turning point on AI in law will be when openAI finally integrates chatgpt into your discovery file to crawl around and look for shit. (Facts win cases, not law.) I'm hoping to see this within a year. Right now you can feed it bite-sized pieces, and the results, honestly, are not very impressive (but mostly because the inputs are not very large). But when it starts being able to watch and transcribe 773 hours of video and read 1.2M pages of text and tell me where are the places where subordinates raised concerns about possible MRSA outbreaks, where do you start to see the beginning signs of an outbreak, and for each decedent, create a timeline of their symptoms and reporting -- THAT will be useful. THAT will allow me to let go some of my entitled spoiled rich-kid shitlib associates from CLS. |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: Ricky the laziness is so fucking niggerish and weird
does it have good memory features compared to stadnard? like it will remeber al the past shit i put in well or i have to keep reminding it?
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. Memory a million times better on pro
o3 pro remembered details i posted like 40+ questions ago like butter. And integrated them fully into future responses. Not used gpt 5 for convos that long yet |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:11 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) I am actually really pro-AI; it's only in environments like xo -- with oodles of mid- to high-160s lsat scorers who believe strongly in futurism because people of their intellectual capacity were really supposed to be religious, but religion is dead -- where I'm constantly having to be like "lol there partner, let's not spaz your Emory hat off your head, or pee through your Michigan Law sweatpants over this."
No, to be honest I'm extremely unimpressed at the model's long-term memory. I tend to delete most of my threads after I'm done with them, but I also don't expect it to remember stuff from those threads; I don't know if this practice contributes to this issue. I have no idea why this happens and I do not view it as a 'core' criticism of AI (it also doesn't really bother me that much).
The laziness is so fucking bizarre it makes me want to snap sam altmans twiggy little fag arms off. Like half of what I want you to do is give me links to all ~50 fucking PDFs, goddamnit. |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:17 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. Used it for 2-3 years and it is infuriating at providing links, I'll give you that. But if you use lexis on other screen can literally lookup the cites and they're ALL accurate now.
Pro/research grade I'd guess has a different memory bank than the normal "thinking" gpt. Keep it in one convo and you can do miracles with pro |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:20 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) I have always credited the Westlaw ai with not hallucinating in the way chatgpt likes to -- although, if you notice, you can straight-up tell it to give you case quotes so you can opportunistically sift through them, and it will 100% refuse to do so. I've always suspected that's WL's way of avoiding the issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182436) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:27 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. Westlaw ai was better than lexis but is miles behind o3 pro and 5 research grade now, even with specific bluebook cites. There are no longer hallucinations using the $200 month model
I have no idea how openai coded it now but it's scary af.
Obviously I'm violating a million and one client confidentiality rules but if you dare to try it will be completely fucking shocked and convinced your career will soon be caput |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:34 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) I could give two shits about client confidentiality in this context and have no idea why it's become such a hot topic. I blame the proliferation of "ethics" CLEs needing some topic to harp on endlessly about.
OpenAI says they don't train on user inputs, right? So why is this any different from any other tool, like WL or whatever my investigator uses? |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:38 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. Thank you dude, my thoughts too
While it is admittedly giving a lot of info to gpt, do you know how troublesome that discovery request would be for the other party to sit and wade through without AI? Oh wait then you could just send them a discovery request for THEIR gpt history. So there's an impasse, no?
I think gpt will quickly become like westlaw or lexis w/r/t discovery or bullshit like that. Just not realistic |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:05 PM Author: Faggottini Have you tried notebook LM? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182388) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: Ricky is it cr?
a lot of people liek it |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:16 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) No. Honestly I haven't heard of it.
My big AI limitation (and yes, it's a huge one; I get it) is that I'm all in on ChatGPT as a product; I no longer do anything with claude, grok, etc. It was a deliberate choice and the kind of tradeoff we all have to make. It seemed, and still seems, like chatgpt is the accepted industry leader. |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182556) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:31 PM Author: scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182486) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: sam hyde inseminating boner police's mouth via gjr is chatgpt black? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182395) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:08 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. If you paste discovery files in gpt 5 reaearch grade and give it a good outline i maintain it is way better than a first or second year associate at pinpointing exact lines in deposition that will turn the tide
You do mass torts? Yeah that might reach the end of what gpt can do. But it's still a hell of a lot better than giving to a clueless associate |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:50 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) This I agree with. There's still no substitute for having done the depo yourself and tracked the good admissions in real time, but on those cases where you're coming in during MSJ or the leadup to trial I've had better luck with chatgpt updating me on depos than the depo-takers themselves -- even not considering the time saved by the associate not having to update you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182543) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:19 PM Author: Dave Prole "The REAL turning point on AI in law will be when openAI finally integrates chatgpt into your discovery file to crawl around and look for shit"
They turned this on like 2 weeks ago
I made a huge thread about it and have been using it daily to do doc reviews in the background
It went through 1,000 pages of discovery the other day while I was doing other stuff and sifted out 5 key docs for my mediation brief that would've taken me 10-20 hours to find |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:22 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) What? It told me like 2 days ago that it still can't do that, and you still have to upload file by file (-ish, obviously). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182440) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:23 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. Become a better prompt engineer, i.e. an actual LAWYER with QUESTIONS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182448) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:28 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) Easy there, queer; I'm not the one taking "10-20 hours" to review "1,000 pages of discovery" for hot docs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182467) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:22 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. 180 and absolutely correct.
o3 pro also did that starting ~3 months ago too |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:27 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Is 1,000 pages a lot of discovery to you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182459) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:30 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. I would be fascinated to see if you could actually use it for one of your mass tort claims.
I bet you could, easy |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:17 PM Author: AZNgirl Declaring Inalienable Right to AZNpussy Actually cld do more for shitigator solos than biglol, if I was still practicing I cld just have it do all my discovery, respond to BS motions, draft complaints and few times I have to deal with msj or mtd it wld prepare something 10x better. U cld have one man shops going up against the prestigious skaden and dla pipers of the world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182426) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:21 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. That is precisely correct and absolutely 180
I literally used it against biglaw firms and me + partner have beat them the fuck out. I never tell partner where I get these flawless briefs from--and admittedly I ALWAYS check its references and do occasionally add bits and pieces. Literally same exact shit you would so as supervising attorney for a hotshot associate. GPT 5 I literally trust more than nearly all associates. It is pure insanity |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:30 PM Author: chill internet user with one static pseudonym (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182478) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 6:04 PM Author: AZNgirl Declaring Inalienable Right to AZNpussy the amount of scholarly treats that are gonna appear in random shitlol briefs is gonna be lolzy, these kike partners in BIGLOL are not ready for it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182586) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:42 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) **Sponsored DLA PIPER poast. Mr. Turdskin is a paid spokesman and brand ambassador.** (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182523) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 6:03 PM Author: AZNgirl Declaring Inalienable Right to AZNpussy Correction: Mr. Turdskin serves as the Chai Officewalla for DLA PIPER Mumbai. He is currently engaged to the Managing Partner, Mr. Dikshit Agarwal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182583) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:27 PM Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,..................... Eye-opening thread. Really interesting to think what the workforce is going to look like in 5 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182461) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:30 PM Author: chill internet user with one static pseudonym it will look like a lot of indians unless we expel and/or kill them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182481) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 6:04 PM Author: AZNgirl Declaring Inalienable Right to AZNpussy lol wtf mods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182587) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:33 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. Every lawstudent should be shitting their pants right now. If associate not absolutely eager to serve (which, let's be honest, none in last 5 years have been!) I immediately ghost them and start intensely using gpt on my other laptop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182494) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:36 PM Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,...., Looks like junior litigators are fuct but trannies appear to be safe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182505) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:41 PM Author: ...,,...,,....,.,.,.,.,...,,,,,,,........,.,.,.,. It's even better for tranny, but a LOT MORE context is needed and at that point it's simpler to do on your own (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182518) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 6:05 PM Author: AZNgirl Declaring Inalienable Right to AZNpussy even better for trannies cause u can just upload a trannie pic to chatgpt and it will confirm whether its a real true trannie so u dont have to fear having sex with a gross biological female (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2Reputation#49182589) |