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why did (((they))) fear the sega dreamcast?

shut down the greatest console of all time
marvelous depressive nursing home
  12/03/18
Fred Durst
Charcoal vibrant boltzmann
  12/03/18
truly the greatest console of all time seriously sucked t...
Blue library
  12/03/18
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Spectacular At-the-ready Stage Queen Of The Night
  12/03/18
iirc poor marketing, notoriously hard to develop for, timing...
henna big plaza skinny woman
  12/03/18
*leans into mic*
marvelous depressive nursing home
  12/03/18
I was wrong about developers that was the Saturn but I had...
henna big plaza skinny woman
  12/03/18
...
Soul-stirring Fluffy Site Crotch
  12/03/18
sega consistently made dumb choices
Razzle preventive strike
  12/03/18
explain
Copper 180 multi-billionaire
  12/03/18
literally dozens of videos on youtube explaining said failur...
Blue library
  12/03/18
(((j00tube)))
Cheese-eating Native Persian
  12/03/18
they were competitive (but still a laggard) during the genes...
Razzle preventive strike
  12/03/18
ty
Copper 180 multi-billionaire
  12/03/18
The idea that the dreamcast launched "early" is lu...
pearly quadroon box office
  12/12/22
Game gear was awesome, used like 12 batteries though
Violet mad cow disease trailer park
  12/12/22
I did a new run of Defenders of the Oasis every family vacat...
pearly quadroon box office
  12/12/22
Dudes in my dorm had tons of pirated games on CDRs. Probabl...
jet supple house
  12/03/18
hard for anything to go toe to toe w/ ps1, it had so many fu...
puce flatulent giraffe
  12/03/18
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electric whorehouse
  12/12/22
I loved my Dreamcast, but open license/development PlayStati...
Sooty Locus Ratface
  12/12/22
sega cd was the goat sega system
cocky parlour mental disorder
  12/12/22
A triumph
Cowardly Beady-eyed National Circlehead
  12/12/22
Important thread. Imo Sega confused audiences, but not in th...
Cowardly Beady-eyed National Circlehead
  12/12/22
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ethereal \\(> ' v ' <)// tp
  11/26/25


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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: marvelous depressive nursing home

shut down the greatest console of all time

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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: Charcoal vibrant boltzmann

Fred Durst

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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: Blue library

truly the greatest console of all time

seriously sucked that it didnt dominate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#37344721)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Spectacular At-the-ready Stage Queen Of The Night



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: henna big plaza skinny woman

iirc poor marketing, notoriously hard to develop for, timing, cost, couldn't compete w PS1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#37344737)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: marvelous depressive nursing home

*leans into mic*

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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:07 PM
Author: henna big plaza skinny woman

I was wrong about developers that was the Saturn

but I had a DC and it just couldn't compete w PS1 third party games and then the PS2 really killed it off

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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:18 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Fluffy Site Crotch



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: Razzle preventive strike

sega consistently made dumb choices

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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: Copper 180 multi-billionaire

explain

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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: Blue library

literally dozens of videos on youtube explaining said failure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#37345266)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: Cheese-eating Native Persian

(((j00tube)))

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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: Razzle preventive strike

they were competitive (but still a laggard) during the genesis era

game gear was garbage. no games and terrible garbage battery life.

saturn was their biggest fuck up. expensive, hard-to-develop-for system that didn't have killer games like ff vii or gran turismo. this arguably killed sega.

dreamcast was launched way too early and wasn't nearly as competitive with the ps2 in terms of power or games.

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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Copper 180 multi-billionaire

ty

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Date: December 12th, 2022 6:27 PM
Author: pearly quadroon box office

The idea that the dreamcast launched "early" is ludicrous. In fact, it had the strongest launch lineup of all time. The PS2 on the other hand was roundly criticized for its launch lineup. And the claim that the Dreamcast wasn't competitive with PS2 on "power" is dubious when Dreamcast games generally looked better than PS2 games when the PS2 launched and for quite a while after. I'd have to go check the release timeline but my recollection is that PS2 had already been declared the "victor" long before it pulled ahead on games.

Now, the real reasons Dreamcast failed:

-The retail support was terrible. The (((dedicated game stores))) like EB and Gamestop were actively sabotaging Dreamcast, encouraging all customers to skip it and preorder PS2 instead and making fantastical claims about the PS2's power. The amount and prominence of shelf space in big box retailers like Target and Best Buy was also lacking. They treated the system as an afterthought from the very start. How many stores do you remember going to that had working Dreamcast demo units? Dreamcast games were light years beyond PS1 and N64, which looked like complete ass in comparison, but that was never really put in front of the consumer.

-EA turning on Sega fucked them hard and set the stage for other third parties to pull out. Dreamcast had a mass exodus of (((third party support))) while sales and its game lineup were both still pretty strong. These third parties essentially annointed Sony behind the scenes, rather than it being a customer choice based on "power" and "games."

-Launching on the same day as FF8 surely didn't help. New Final Fantasy games were mega-events back then, but the above two issues were much greater factors.



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Date: December 12th, 2022 6:30 PM
Author: Violet mad cow disease trailer park

Game gear was awesome, used like 12 batteries though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#45622920)



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Date: December 12th, 2022 6:35 PM
Author: pearly quadroon box office

I did a new run of Defenders of the Oasis every family vacation. 180 system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#45622939)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: jet supple house

Dudes in my dorm had tons of pirated games on CDRs. Probably didn’t help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#37345264)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:25 PM
Author: puce flatulent giraffe

hard for anything to go toe to toe w/ ps1, it had so many fucking games. n64 was like 'boutique console' that ppl had in addition to ps1s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#37345280)



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Date: December 12th, 2022 5:57 PM
Author: electric whorehouse



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Date: December 12th, 2022 6:35 PM
Author: Sooty Locus Ratface

I loved my Dreamcast, but open license/development PlayStation smoked them on 3rd party game library, and Nintendo smoked them on first party game library.

I still think about Shenmue sometimes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#45622938)



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Date: December 12th, 2022 7:06 PM
Author: cocky parlour mental disorder

sega cd was the goat sega system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#45623160)



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Date: December 12th, 2022 8:52 PM
Author: Cowardly Beady-eyed National Circlehead

A triumph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#45623974)



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Date: December 12th, 2022 7:14 PM
Author: Cowardly Beady-eyed National Circlehead

Important thread. Imo Sega confused audiences, but not in the way traditionally described. The Genesis add-ons were nbd, but Saturn was literally the polar opposite of Genesis. They went from marketing exclusively to Scumbags to exclusively Losers and everyone was incredibly confused. By the time Dreamcast released, N64 fans were admitting defeat w/r/t the genand were getting PS1s, and PS1 bros were relishing their Win in that gen and preparing for the PS2. There was no room for Dreamcast. It was a better product when it came to arcade style games for sure but nobody cared. It’s never been about the games. It’s sour Consoles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2Reputation#45623220)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 9:35 AM
Author: ethereal \\(> ' v ' <)// tp



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