Date: December 20th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: Mainlining the $ecret Truth of the Univer$e (One Year Performance 1978-1979 (Cage Piece) (Awfully coy u are))
For someone well-fitted with year-round gear seeking maximum seclusion and a feasible environment for long-term survival, the Central Idaho Wilderness Complex (specifically the Frank Church—River of No Return and Selway-Bitterroot Wildernesses) provides the best opportunity.
While the Wind River Range and High Sierra offer spectacular isolation, they are high-altitude alpine environments that become nearly uninhabitable for a solitary human in winter. Central Idaho wins because its deep river canyons offer a "survivable" winter elevation, and its sheer contiguous size allows for a nomadic existence that is harder to sustain elsewhere.
1. The Winner: Central Idaho Wilderness Complex
This area serves as the premier choice for year-round seclusion due to a unique combination of topography, vegetation, and lack of human density.
Winter Survivability (The Decisive Factor): This is the only one of the three where "living" year-round is physically plausible without expedition-level support.
The "Banana Belt" Effect: Unlike the Wind River Range or High Sierra, which are high-altitude plateaus or spines (mostly 8,000–12,000+ ft), the Frank Church is cut by the Salmon River canyons. The canyon floors drop to 2,000–3,000 feet. While the surrounding peaks collect massive snowpack, the deep river breaks often remain passable or hold significantly less snow, offering access to water, fuel, and game throughout winter.
Cover and Resources: The region is densely forested (providing firewood and shelter construction material), whereas the Winds and Sierra are largely granite basins often above the treeline, leaving you exposed to lethal wind chills and fuel shortages.
Seclusion & Human Traffic:
Low Density: While the Middle Fork of the Salmon River sees rafters in summer, the millions of acres of "upland" forest away from the river are virtually empty. One source notes that in most sections, "the footprints you see will be those of elk and deer, not humans".
Lack of "Instagram" Tourism: It lacks the condensed scenic fame of the Sierra’s John Muir Trail or the Winds' Cirque of the Towers, meaning fewer casual backpackers venture into the deep interior.
Strategic Nomadic Living:
The "Move" Rule: Federal law prohibits "residing" on public land and typically strictly enforces a 14-day stay limit (you must move 5 miles every 14 days).
Feasibility: In a smaller range, moving 5 miles every two weeks eventually pushes you into a road or a town. In the 4-million-acre block of the Frank Church/Selway, you could migrate nomadically for years without ever crossing your own path or seeing a road, technically complying with the "move" regulations while remaining effectively hidden.
migrate nomadically for years without ever crossing your own path or seeing a road, technically complying with the "move" regulations while remaining effectively hidden.
2. The Runner-Up: Wind River Range (Wyoming)
The Winds are arguably the most "wild" in terms of rugged grandeur, but they are a seasonal fortress, not a year-round home.
The Winter Problem: The range is a high plateau. Winter conditions are arctic, with deep snowdrifts and sub-zero temperatures lasting from October to June. Surviving here requires not just "living," but hibernating or constant high-calorie mountaineering.
Exposure: Much of the interior is above the treeline (alpine tundra). In a winter storm, there is no shelter, no wood for fire, and no way out.
Seclusion: While the deep off-trail pockets are empty, the popular trailheads (Elkhart Park, Big Sandy) are seeing overuse issues. You would have complete solitude in winter, but likely at the cost of your life.
3. Third Place: High Sierra (California)
The Sierra is the most regulated and "patrolled" of the three, making it the poorest choice for someone trying to disappear.
Bureaucracy: This is the most heavily managed wilderness in the U.S. Permits are required year-round for overnight camping, and quotas are strictly enforced. Rangers actively patrol the backcountry (especially the John Muir Trail corridor) to check permits.
Geography: It is a linear range (north-south). To stay deep, you are confined to a relatively narrow high-altitude strip. If you drop elevation to escape winter snow, you inevitably walk out of the wilderness and into the Owens Valley or Central Valley towns.
Winter Risks: Known for "Sierra Cement" (heavy, wet snow), the range sees massive accumulation that makes travel nearly impossible without skis, and avalanche danger is a constant threat in the steep terrain.
Summary Recommendation
For the best opportunity to live securely and secluded:
Target: The Frank Church—River of No Return Wilderness.
Strategy: Utilize the deep tributary canyons of the Salmon River. Move camp every 14 days to remain legal and avoid creating a permanent "impact zone" that attracts Ranger attention.
Advantage: You obtain the solitude of the Winds without the lethal winter exposure, and the scale of the Sierra without the intense permit bureaucracy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5812541&forum_id=2Reputation#49525750)