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Book rec for boys ?

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? look...
histrionic brunch
  12/18/25
I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderso...
tripping school pisswyrm
  12/18/25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712? Reasonable price, ...
Gaped love of her life
  12/18/25
...
aphrodisiac hideous national persian
  12/18/25
"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys...
vermilion internal respiration indian lodge
  12/19/25
this is now forever in my search history I want you dead,...
vermilion internal respiration indian lodge
  12/19/25
mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel
titillating bearded parlour hunting ground
  12/18/25
A few offhand: -On the Shortness of Life - Seneca -Sta...
big sweet tailpipe
  12/18/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&a...
vermilion internal respiration indian lodge
  12/19/25
or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of...
cerebral theater stage
  12/19/25
...
Scarlet Vivacious Tattoo
  12/18/25
Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters
Red Appetizing Chapel
  12/18/25
i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer readin...
histrionic brunch
  12/18/25
Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Ce...
Red Appetizing Chapel
  12/18/25
they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your...
histrionic brunch
  12/18/25
180
Red Appetizing Chapel
  12/18/25
The eyes and the impossible sourdough heart of samurai...
adventurous hall
  12/18/25
rocket boys is 180
judgmental hominid queen of the night
  12/18/25
Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo
adventurous hall
  12/18/25
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judgmental hominid queen of the night
  12/19/25
weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party...
cerebral theater stage
  12/22/25
CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" thos...
Charismatic honey-headed theatre
  12/18/25
he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that&rsq...
histrionic brunch
  12/18/25
The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)
cheese-eating wild house
  12/18/25
ty for the recs, this is helpful i just asked him what bo...
histrionic brunch
  12/18/25
Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has rea...
Fishy goal in life codepig
  12/18/25
seconding count of monte cristo three musketeers is also ...
alcoholic dilemma
  12/18/25
JackTales 🤡😳
green lascivious nowag
  12/18/25
those are for reading out loud , clown
adventurous hall
  12/18/25
The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton https://www.amazon...
lemon balding hospital multi-billionaire
  12/18/25
Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz) We Were Soldiers Once… And...
Angry french chef idiot
  12/18/25
...
magenta spectacular clown lodge
  12/18/25
I’m not even sure which author you’re talking ab...
Angry french chef idiot
  12/18/25
...
magenta spectacular clown lodge
  12/18/25
he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers &qu...
fantasy-prone fanboi address
  12/21/25
Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000
judgmental hominid queen of the night
  12/18/25
No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a bet...
Angry french chef idiot
  12/18/25
James Bond novels Conan (only read the flemming and howard...
Laughsome Garrison Legal Warrant
  12/18/25
The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.
big sweet tailpipe
  12/18/25
Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 ...
Laughsome Garrison Legal Warrant
  12/18/25
Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new boo...
big sweet tailpipe
  12/18/25
1. Goldfinger 2. Moonraker 3. Casino Royale 4. From Russ...
Laughsome Garrison Legal Warrant
  12/19/25
tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I th...
big sweet tailpipe
  12/21/25
cr
judgmental hominid queen of the night
  12/18/25
Anabasis
stirring ruby trump supporter
  12/18/25
...
magenta spectacular clown lodge
  12/18/25
Flowers for Algernon
nighttime thriller state pervert
  12/18/25
...
magenta spectacular clown lodge
  12/18/25
a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it...
Clear roast beef
  12/18/25
Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in ...
Sick point
  12/18/25
Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?) Zen and the Art of Motorc...
buff soul-stirring senate
  12/18/25
...
magenta spectacular clown lodge
  12/18/25
read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class i...
histrionic brunch
  12/18/25
zorba the greek
judgmental hominid queen of the night
  12/18/25
...
Angry french chef idiot
  12/18/25
Several good recs already upthread. Some others: The Thin...
Charismatic honey-headed theatre
  12/18/25
Cr. list I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit ov...
Angry french chef idiot
  12/18/25
The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorit...
rose casino associate
  12/18/25
...
Charismatic honey-headed theatre
  12/18/25
agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise cau...
fantasy-prone fanboi address
  12/22/25
Watership Down A Day No Pigs Would Die 2nd Where the R...
zombie-like pea-brained puppy step-uncle's house
  12/18/25
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maniacal outnumbered brethren menage
  12/18/25
Starship Troopers Enders Game Johnny Tremain Childhoods E...
Comical light windowlicker
  12/18/25
A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES
vermilion internal respiration indian lodge
  12/19/25
Neon Bible better rec for younger kid
stirring ruby trump supporter
  12/19/25
abridged edgar allen poe short stories
confused ocher gas station
  12/19/25
https://kommandostore.com/products/republic-of-south-africa-...
Razzmatazz Volcanic Crater
  12/26/25


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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: histrionic brunch

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? looking for something that would be motivating / tools for life genre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519424)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: tripping school pisswyrm

I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderson (Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) Fritz Lieber (Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser) etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519444)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: Gaped love of her life

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712?

Reasonable price, free shipping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519452)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: aphrodisiac hideous national persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519458)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: vermilion internal respiration indian lodge

"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys and crayons, a bubble bath, and lots of love."

-- School Library Journal

"Will undoubtedly be scooped up by families seeking queer representation in board books."

-- Kirkus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521596)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:42 AM
Author: vermilion internal respiration indian lodge

this is now forever in my search history

I want you dead, Malk Poo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521719)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: titillating bearded parlour hunting ground

mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519459)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: big sweet tailpipe

A few offhand:

-On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

-Starship Troopers (the book is much better and more serious than the movie)

-Bonfire of the Vanities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519460)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: vermilion internal respiration indian lodge

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&forum_id=2#35633765

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521571)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: cerebral theater stage

or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of his vanities

toughens him up a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49522050)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: Scarlet Vivacious Tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519465)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Red Appetizing Chapel

Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519476)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: histrionic brunch

i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer reading assignments



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519493)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: Red Appetizing Chapel

Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Celestine Prophecy, Lord of the Flies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519513)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: histrionic brunch

they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your other recs, ty!

he just finished peak, so hatchet is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519523)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Red Appetizing Chapel

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519559)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: adventurous hall

The eyes and the impossible

sourdough

heart of samurai

artemis

rocket boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519953)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: judgmental hominid queen of the night

rocket boys is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520282)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: adventurous hall

Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521280)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: judgmental hominid queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521595)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: cerebral theater stage

weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party scene at my rural West Virginia high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49530601)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Charismatic honey-headed theatre

CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" those by HS, especially later in HS?

My 7 year old just read--and really enjoyed--Hatchet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519755)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: histrionic brunch

he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that’s more his reading level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519767)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: cheese-eating wild house

The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519483)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: histrionic brunch

ty for the recs, this is helpful

i just asked him what book he’s reading (we’re on a flight) and its war and peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519489)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Fishy goal in life codepig

Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has read tons of other Russian lit and has a solid grounding in religion and philosophy.

Count of Monte Cristo is a goat novel that is also accessible and really exciting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519679)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: alcoholic dilemma

seconding count of monte cristo

three musketeers is also great and vastly superior to any adaptation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519686)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: green lascivious nowag

JackTales 🤡😳

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519490)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: adventurous hall

those are for reading out loud , clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519956)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: lemon balding hospital multi-billionaire

The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton

https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Pink-Hair-Perez-Hilton/dp/0451234200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519492)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: Angry french chef idiot

Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz)

We Were Soldiers Once… And Young (Moore & Galloway)

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage (Lansing)

The Way of Men (Donovan)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519502)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: magenta spectacular clown lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519701)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Angry french chef idiot

I’m not even sure which author you’re talking about, though I’m 99.99% sure that it’s not Moore or Galloway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519724)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: magenta spectacular clown lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519873)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: fantasy-prone fanboi address

he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers "androphile," a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49528627)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: judgmental hominid queen of the night

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519898)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: Angry french chef idiot

No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a better idea of what it means to be a man and to experience the thrill, the triumph, of surviving impossible odds. Leadership, loyalty, discipline. And then they get home and are like, fuck it, sign me up for WWI’s trenches

My middle son needed a bit of coaching on perseverance, so we read this together and then did a HARD AS FUCK mountain bike camping trip in western NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520739)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Laughsome Garrison Legal Warrant

James Bond novels

Conan (only read the flemming and howard originals though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519505)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: big sweet tailpipe

The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519535)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: Laughsome Garrison Legal Warrant

Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 or so) in a summer. all were 180. I tried reading the non-flemming but its not the same. They don't write novels like that anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519587)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: big sweet tailpipe

Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new books to read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519744)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Laughsome Garrison Legal Warrant

1. Goldfinger

2. Moonraker

3. Casino Royale

4. From Russia With Love

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

the order changes based on mood but these five are in a tier above.

the rest are all solid. for example, Diamonds are Forever is my least favorite and that is still leagues better than any modern espionage novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49522101)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: big sweet tailpipe

tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49528612)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: judgmental hominid queen of the night

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519729)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: stirring ruby trump supporter

Anabasis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519542)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: magenta spectacular clown lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519572)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: nighttime thriller state pervert

Flowers for Algernon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519548)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: magenta spectacular clown lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519568)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Clear roast beef

a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it. great series for boys who like knights, politics, and violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519602)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Sick point

Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in the series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519689)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: buff soul-stirring senate

Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Dune

anything recent by Lawrence Millman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519705)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: magenta spectacular clown lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519706)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: histrionic brunch

read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class in hs. book was so so but class was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519770)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: judgmental hominid queen of the night

zorba the greek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519710)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Angry french chef idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Charismatic honey-headed theatre

Several good recs already upthread. Some others:

The Things They Carried

Mark Twain--starting with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn

1984

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and throw in The Hobbit)

Infinite Jest

Moby Dick

Blood Meridian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519751)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: Angry french chef idiot

Cr. list

I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit overexposed to the hopelessly feminized librarian space for a time and was looked down upon as kind of trite. But it’s 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520745)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: rose casino associate

The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorite. You shouldn't look down on librarian recs. This is all they do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520815)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: Charismatic honey-headed theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521254)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: fantasy-prone fanboi address

agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise caution with the second and third sentences just given that the values may not be stoic masculine warrior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49530736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: zombie-like pea-brained puppy step-uncle's house

Watership Down

A Day No Pigs Would Die

2nd Where the Red Fern Grows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520246)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: maniacal outnumbered brethren menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520756)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: Comical light windowlicker

Starship Troopers

Enders Game

Johnny Tremain

Childhoods End

Rama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520778)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: vermilion internal respiration indian lodge

A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521578)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: stirring ruby trump supporter

Neon Bible better rec for younger kid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521698)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:23 AM
Author: confused ocher gas station

abridged edgar allen poe short stories

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Date: December 26th, 2025 12:37 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Volcanic Crater

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