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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Cracking Public Bath Pozpig
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Razzle ocher jewess
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Razzle ocher jewess
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
fishy unholy weed whacker
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
bull headed crimson becky state
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
bistre electric codepig
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Bat shit crazy range
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
rusted arousing old irish cottage useless brakes
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
rusted arousing old irish cottage useless brakes
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
rusted arousing old irish cottage useless brakes
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
cordovan theater
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
razzle-dazzle personal credit line
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
anal cuckold casino
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
bistre electric codepig
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Cracking Public Bath Pozpig
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Spectacular sooty tank scourge upon the earth
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
hairraiser kitty cat resort
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Maniacal corn cake
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Cracking Public Bath Pozpig
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Spruce Center
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/26/25
...
Arrogant crystalline station
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
heady boiling water bawdyhouse
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
lime brethren cuckoldry
  06/26/25
...
Cream gas station
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
wine insanely creepy half-breed point
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Geriatric dilemma
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Fragrant useless digit ratio
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Geriatric dilemma
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
bistre electric codepig
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Bat shit crazy range
  06/27/25
...
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Stirring twinkling site
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Geriatric dilemma
  06/27/25
...
aggressive property
  06/27/25
...
Crusty marvelous internal respiration
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Fragrant useless digit ratio
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Bat shit crazy range
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
cerebral hospital azn
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
bistre electric codepig
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
heady boiling water bawdyhouse
  06/27/25
...
Shivering Hall
  06/27/25
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bistre electric codepig
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Cracking Public Bath Pozpig

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Razzle ocher jewess

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Razzle ocher jewess

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: fishy unholy weed whacker

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: bull headed crimson becky state

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: bistre electric codepig

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy range

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: rusted arousing old irish cottage useless brakes

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: rusted arousing old irish cottage useless brakes

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: rusted arousing old irish cottage useless brakes

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: cordovan theater

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle personal credit line

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: anal cuckold casino

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: bistre electric codepig

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Cracking Public Bath Pozpig

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Spectacular sooty tank scourge upon the earth

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: hairraiser kitty cat resort

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Maniacal corn cake

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Cracking Public Bath Pozpig

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Spruce Center

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Arrogant crystalline station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: heady boiling water bawdyhouse

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: lime brethren cuckoldry

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Cream gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: wine insanely creepy half-breed point

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Geriatric dilemma

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Fragrant useless digit ratio

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Geriatric dilemma

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: bistre electric codepig

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy range

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Stirring twinkling site

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Geriatric dilemma

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: aggressive property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Crusty marvelous internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Fragrant useless digit ratio

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy range

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: cerebral hospital azn

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: bistre electric codepig

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: heady boiling water bawdyhouse

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Shivering Hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: bistre electric codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053817)