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any books you read or wish you had read in high school? look...
Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce
  12/18/25
I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderso...
Irradiated frozen university
  12/18/25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712? Reasonable price, ...
Cerebral stage
  12/18/25
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thriller claret puppy death wish
  12/18/25
"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys...
Hot elite heaven
  12/19/25
this is now forever in my search history I want you dead,...
Hot elite heaven
  12/19/25
mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel
indigo hairless jew background story
  12/18/25
A few offhand: -On the Shortness of Life - Seneca -Sta...
Aphrodisiac Address Clown
  12/18/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&a...
Hot elite heaven
  12/19/25
or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of...
Stirring site
  12/19/25
...
Aromatic disrespectful preventive strike giraffe
  12/18/25
Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters
mustard cruise ship
  12/18/25
i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer readin...
Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce
  12/18/25
Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Ce...
mustard cruise ship
  12/18/25
they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your...
Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce
  12/18/25
180
mustard cruise ship
  12/18/25
The eyes and the impossible sourdough heart of samurai...
floppy charcoal ladyboy
  12/18/25
rocket boys is 180
federal onyx gaping
  12/18/25
Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo
floppy charcoal ladyboy
  12/18/25
...
federal onyx gaping
  12/19/25
weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party...
Stirring site
  12/22/25
CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" thos...
titillating telephone
  12/18/25
he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that&rsq...
Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce
  12/18/25
The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)
motley philosopher-king
  12/18/25
ty for the recs, this is helpful i just asked him what bo...
Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce
  12/18/25
Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has rea...
Light knife
  12/18/25
seconding count of monte cristo three musketeers is also ...
gaped khaki macaca
  12/18/25
JackTales 🤡😳
Crimson chest-beating theatre
  12/18/25
those are for reading out loud , clown
floppy charcoal ladyboy
  12/18/25
The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton https://www.amazon...
bright location
  12/18/25
Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz) We Were Soldiers Once… And...
yapping aqua step-uncle's house
  12/18/25
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Lake double fault
  12/18/25
I’m not even sure which author you’re talking ab...
yapping aqua step-uncle's house
  12/18/25
...
Lake double fault
  12/18/25
he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers &qu...
Bonkers Pit Idea He Suggested
  12/21/25
Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000
federal onyx gaping
  12/18/25
No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a bet...
yapping aqua step-uncle's house
  12/18/25
James Bond novels Conan (only read the flemming and howard...
Impressive Locale Degenerate
  12/18/25
The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.
Aphrodisiac Address Clown
  12/18/25
Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 ...
Impressive Locale Degenerate
  12/18/25
Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new boo...
Aphrodisiac Address Clown
  12/18/25
1. Goldfinger 2. Moonraker 3. Casino Royale 4. From Russ...
Impressive Locale Degenerate
  12/19/25
tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I th...
Aphrodisiac Address Clown
  12/21/25
cr
federal onyx gaping
  12/18/25
Anabasis
180 Alcoholic Institution
  12/18/25
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Lake double fault
  12/18/25
Flowers for Algernon
arrogant cuck plaza
  12/18/25
...
Lake double fault
  12/18/25
a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it...
Fragrant Senate Volcanic Crater
  12/18/25
Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in ...
Trip red lay sweet tailpipe
  12/18/25
Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?) Zen and the Art of Motorc...
bull headed shrine
  12/18/25
...
Lake double fault
  12/18/25
read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class i...
Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce
  12/18/25
zorba the greek
federal onyx gaping
  12/18/25
...
yapping aqua step-uncle's house
  12/18/25
Several good recs already upthread. Some others: The Thin...
titillating telephone
  12/18/25
Cr. list I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit ov...
yapping aqua step-uncle's house
  12/18/25
The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorit...
racy chestnut casino goal in life
  12/18/25
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titillating telephone
  12/18/25
agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise cau...
Bonkers Pit Idea He Suggested
  12/22/25
Watership Down A Day No Pigs Would Die 2nd Where the R...
Nighttime outnumbered mad-dog skullcap
  12/18/25
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Twisted codepig crackhouse
  12/18/25
Starship Troopers Enders Game Johnny Tremain Childhoods E...
Lascivious gaming laptop
  12/18/25
A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES
Hot elite heaven
  12/19/25
Neon Bible better rec for younger kid
180 Alcoholic Institution
  12/19/25
abridged edgar allen poe short stories
Multi-colored Seedy Partner Dingle Berry
  12/19/25
https://kommandostore.com/products/republic-of-south-africa-...
razzle-dazzle ebony nibblets
  12/26/25


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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? looking for something that would be motivating / tools for life genre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519424)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: Irradiated frozen university

I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderson (Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) Fritz Lieber (Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser) etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519444)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: Cerebral stage

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712?

Reasonable price, free shipping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519452)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: thriller claret puppy death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519458)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: Hot elite heaven

"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys and crayons, a bubble bath, and lots of love."

-- School Library Journal

"Will undoubtedly be scooped up by families seeking queer representation in board books."

-- Kirkus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521596)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:42 AM
Author: Hot elite heaven

this is now forever in my search history

I want you dead, Malk Poo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521719)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: indigo hairless jew background story

mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519459)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Address Clown

A few offhand:

-On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

-Starship Troopers (the book is much better and more serious than the movie)

-Bonfire of the Vanities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519460)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: Hot elite heaven

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&forum_id=2#35633765

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521571)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: Stirring site

or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of his vanities

toughens him up a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49522050)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: Aromatic disrespectful preventive strike giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519465)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: mustard cruise ship

Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519476)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce

i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer reading assignments



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519493)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: mustard cruise ship

Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Celestine Prophecy, Lord of the Flies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519513)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce

they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your other recs, ty!

he just finished peak, so hatchet is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519523)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: mustard cruise ship

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519559)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: floppy charcoal ladyboy

The eyes and the impossible

sourdough

heart of samurai

artemis

rocket boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519953)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: federal onyx gaping

rocket boys is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520282)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: floppy charcoal ladyboy

Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521280)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: federal onyx gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521595)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Stirring site

weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party scene at my rural West Virginia high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49530601)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: titillating telephone

CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" those by HS, especially later in HS?

My 7 year old just read--and really enjoyed--Hatchet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519755)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce

he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that’s more his reading level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519767)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: motley philosopher-king

The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519483)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce

ty for the recs, this is helpful

i just asked him what book he’s reading (we’re on a flight) and its war and peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519489)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Light knife

Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has read tons of other Russian lit and has a solid grounding in religion and philosophy.

Count of Monte Cristo is a goat novel that is also accessible and really exciting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519679)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: gaped khaki macaca

seconding count of monte cristo

three musketeers is also great and vastly superior to any adaptation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519686)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Crimson chest-beating theatre

JackTales 🤡😳

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519490)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: floppy charcoal ladyboy

those are for reading out loud , clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519956)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: bright location

The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton

https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Pink-Hair-Perez-Hilton/dp/0451234200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519492)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: yapping aqua step-uncle's house

Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz)

We Were Soldiers Once… And Young (Moore & Galloway)

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage (Lansing)

The Way of Men (Donovan)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519502)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Lake double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519701)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: yapping aqua step-uncle's house

I’m not even sure which author you’re talking about, though I’m 99.99% sure that it’s not Moore or Galloway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519724)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: Lake double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519873)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: Bonkers Pit Idea He Suggested

he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers "androphile," a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49528627)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: federal onyx gaping

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519898)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: yapping aqua step-uncle's house

No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a better idea of what it means to be a man and to experience the thrill, the triumph, of surviving impossible odds. Leadership, loyalty, discipline. And then they get home and are like, fuck it, sign me up for WWI’s trenches

My middle son needed a bit of coaching on perseverance, so we read this together and then did a HARD AS FUCK mountain bike camping trip in western NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520739)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Impressive Locale Degenerate

James Bond novels

Conan (only read the flemming and howard originals though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519505)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Address Clown

The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519535)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: Impressive Locale Degenerate

Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 or so) in a summer. all were 180. I tried reading the non-flemming but its not the same. They don't write novels like that anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519587)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Address Clown

Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new books to read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519744)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Impressive Locale Degenerate

1. Goldfinger

2. Moonraker

3. Casino Royale

4. From Russia With Love

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

the order changes based on mood but these five are in a tier above.

the rest are all solid. for example, Diamonds are Forever is my least favorite and that is still leagues better than any modern espionage novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49522101)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Address Clown

tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49528612)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: federal onyx gaping

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519729)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: 180 Alcoholic Institution

Anabasis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519542)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Lake double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519572)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: arrogant cuck plaza

Flowers for Algernon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519548)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Lake double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519568)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Fragrant Senate Volcanic Crater

a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it. great series for boys who like knights, politics, and violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519602)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Trip red lay sweet tailpipe

Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in the series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519689)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: bull headed shrine

Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Dune

anything recent by Lawrence Millman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519705)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: Lake double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519706)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: Smoky Water Buffalo Lettuce

read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class in hs. book was so so but class was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519770)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: federal onyx gaping

zorba the greek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519710)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: yapping aqua step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: titillating telephone

Several good recs already upthread. Some others:

The Things They Carried

Mark Twain--starting with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn

1984

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and throw in The Hobbit)

Infinite Jest

Moby Dick

Blood Meridian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49519751)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: yapping aqua step-uncle's house

Cr. list

I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit overexposed to the hopelessly feminized librarian space for a time and was looked down upon as kind of trite. But it’s 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520745)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: racy chestnut casino goal in life

The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorite. You shouldn't look down on librarian recs. This is all they do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520815)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: titillating telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521254)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Bonkers Pit Idea He Suggested

agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise caution with the second and third sentences just given that the values may not be stoic masculine warrior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49530736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Nighttime outnumbered mad-dog skullcap

Watership Down

A Day No Pigs Would Die

2nd Where the Red Fern Grows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520246)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: Twisted codepig crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520756)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: Lascivious gaming laptop

Starship Troopers

Enders Game

Johnny Tremain

Childhoods End

Rama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49520778)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: Hot elite heaven

A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521578)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: 180 Alcoholic Institution

Neon Bible better rec for younger kid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521698)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:23 AM
Author: Multi-colored Seedy Partner Dingle Berry

abridged edgar allen poe short stories

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Reputation#49521706)



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Date: December 26th, 2025 12:37 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle ebony nibblets

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