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There are like 4 total "open world" video games that have been actually good

GTA 3 & Vice City (same game so counts as 1) Mercenari...
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if you're putting Crackdown you lose all credibility
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Crackdown is a masterpiece
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I only like botw
chest-beating dilemma
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I only played the gta games as a sandbox to cause mayhem I n...
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Immortals Fenyx Rising is fun
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Ubisoft 🤮
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GTA 5 was great. And I am in the minority here as enjoying T...
provocative institution
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BOTW was a triumph and i quit playing tears about 3 hours in...
Bearded giraffe
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You are better off starting with GTA: San Andreas or just go...
provocative institution
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Vice City is good too. I'd skip 3 at this point, and just go...
primrose love of her life pit
  04/22/26
GTA IV is even better than those, especially if you ever liv...
Arousing Fiercely-loyal Forum Mother
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Cant skip III; he needs a primer on the Australian-American ...
Clear idiot
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Is the original Legend of Zelda "open world"? Wha...
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Elden Ring’s is pretty good if you have a lot of time ...
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I'm never gonna play any of these parry & roll around w/...
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Elden Ring is quite literally hundreds of square miles of no...
primrose love of her life pit
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You never saw the late game and its Dungeons. Also there&...
stirring gunner pozpig
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Absurd you left RDR2 off this list. It is a TRIUMPH.
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https://x.com/HadesRise/status/2046996354883358779
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Witcher 3 was excellent and still plays well.
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Fake open world linear game
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Shots fired
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it was worse than 1 and 2 and the best parts of 3 were the l...
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1 might've been the most interesting, despite the shitty nev...
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On a somewhat related subject, I never get tired of 4chan /v...
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i enjoyed daggerfall
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Red Dead 2 wasn’t that bad, come on
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crackdown was badass
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Oblivion deserves credit for finally fulfilling the basic pr...
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glad you mentioned Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction. T...
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I realize these are completely different games than what OP ...
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people dont see each other irl twisted metal would be ma...
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*You, me, Emilio and frutiger aero tp four-boxing Mario kart...
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Missing a POTUS off the list btw: Shenmue https://www.red...
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I think lawman8 really loved this game
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series was really good and i hate these types of games
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i notice that you CONSPICUOUSLY left out LA Noire.
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ff7
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A triumph
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Hardwar
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a rich open world
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Cyberpunk 2077 was great
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(Goymer)
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MGSV was the best other than having a chunk of story cut off...
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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:02 AM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

GTA 3 & Vice City (same game so counts as 1)

Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction

Zelda Breath of the Wild but not the sequel

Crackdown 1

The Rest are abysmal gash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49833947)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:23 PM
Author: Ultramarine heady shrine

if you're putting Crackdown you lose all credibility

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835698)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:35 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

Crackdown is a masterpiece

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836194)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:03 AM
Author: chest-beating dilemma

I only like botw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49833951)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:04 AM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

I only played the gta games as a sandbox to cause mayhem I never did any "missions" or story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49833957)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:15 AM
Author: tripping purple party of the first part famous landscape painting

Immortals Fenyx Rising is fun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49833992)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:22 AM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

Ubisoft 🤮

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49834006)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:17 AM
Author: provocative institution

GTA 5 was great. And I am in the minority here as enjoying Tears of the Kingdom despite it being The Same Game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49833996)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 3:57 PM
Author: Bearded giraffe

BOTW was a triumph and i quit playing tears about 3 hours in because it was the same. i'd never played GTA before i just fired up GTA III on steam the other night, but the entire game just seems to be running driving missions for scum NPCs for virtual money (ie take this hooker to this house and get the car painted at this other place). is that the entire game?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49834762)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 4:01 PM
Author: provocative institution

You are better off starting with GTA: San Andreas or just going straight to GTA 5. GTA III is great, but it is dated. It gets to be more fun for sure, but it doesn't have the variety or dynamism of later games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49834779)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:02 PM
Author: primrose love of her life pit

Vice City is good too. I'd skip 3 at this point, and just go to VC and SA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835586)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:27 PM
Author: Arousing Fiercely-loyal Forum Mother

GTA IV is even better than those, especially if you ever lived in nyc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836088)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:10 PM
Author: Clear idiot

Cant skip III; he needs a primer on the Australian-American War.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836154)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 4:02 PM
Author: cordovan puppy resort

Is the original Legend of Zelda "open world"? What about Majora's Mask?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49834783)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 4:10 PM
Author: stirring gunner pozpig

Elden Ring’s is pretty good if you have a lot of time on your hands or ingenious intuition about things. The way that some quests progress is like NES Simon’s Quest tier if not more cryptic.

Every one of these games that has lots of Fields and Land bores me automatically btw. They need to stop making these imo. Like Zelda’s open world has shrines which have Things inside of them. Land and trees and Herbs and Caves are bullshit if that’s all there is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49834794)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 6:56 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

I'm never gonna play any of these parry & roll around w/ sword games that Fromsoft churns out, it just looks like way too much going on for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835316)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:04 PM
Author: primrose love of her life pit

Elden Ring is quite literally hundreds of square miles of nothing. Oversized World just for the sake of being Oversized, no real point.

Oh yeah, and the "rolling INTO the attack" mechanic is fucking gay as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835592)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:19 PM
Author: stirring gunner pozpig

You never saw the late game and its Dungeons.

Also there’s a cool af underground area with multiple entrances and exits on the overworld. Other things like that too probably which I never found.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836168)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 4:54 PM
Author: cyan fortuitous meteor private investor

Absurd you left RDR2 off this list. It is a TRIUMPH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49834903)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 6:58 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

https://x.com/HadesRise/status/2046996354883358779

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835324)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: Floppy Trailer Park Death Wish

Witcher 3 was excellent and still plays well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49834913)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

Fake open world linear game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835338)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre

Shots fired

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835411)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:16 PM
Author: stubborn cracking location

it was worse than 1 and 2 and the best parts of 3 were the least open world bits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835398)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:51 PM
Author: Floppy Trailer Park Death Wish

1 might've been the most interesting, despite the shitty neverwinter nights engine. I still enjoyed doing side quests and other open world stuff in 3 than pretty much every oblivion-esque game, although the dlc and main story were far better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835522)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:21 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre

On a somewhat related subject, I never get tired of 4chan /v/ Witcher 3 waifu threads, either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835415)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 6:58 PM
Author: Vengeful big-titted den

i enjoyed daggerfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835328)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:21 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835418)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 6:59 PM
Author: electric brethren marketing idea

Red Dead 2 wasn’t that bad, come on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835332)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:21 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre

Intriguing poast-moniker synergy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835420)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:57 PM
Author: violet aromatic bbw whorehouse

😆

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835551)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:57 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835555)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Vigorous Tan Faggot Firefighter Dog Poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835752)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:19 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835875)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:33 PM
Author: Mildly autistic orchestra pit trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835911)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:02 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836022)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:18 PM
Author: stubborn cracking location

crackdown was badass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835406)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:35 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: Bipolar International Law Enforcement Agency

Oblivion deserves credit for finally fulfilling the basic promise of an open world fantasy game

And then New Vegas is an obvious top tier game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 7:57 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:05 PM
Author: primrose love of her life pit

glad you mentioned Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction. That Game was fun as fuck back in the day. The sequel was really disappointing

I would add GTA 5 to the OP List.

Otherwise, he is pretty much spot on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835600)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:35 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835735)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: violet aromatic bbw whorehouse

I realize these are completely different games than what OP is talking about, but Destruction Derby and Twisted Metal on PlayStation 1 were fun as fuck to mess around with your bros and I don’t know why they don’t ever make games like that any more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835633)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:21 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835682)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:24 PM
Author: Vengeful big-titted den

people dont see each other irl

twisted metal would be made into an online only shit fest where u play against no life losers who MUST win every game at all costs

people cant even have fun anymore

i remember spending hours on the paris map in twisted metal trying to get to the top of teh effiel tower then destroying it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835701)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: violet aromatic bbw whorehouse

*You, me, Emilio and frutiger aero tp four-boxing Mario kart on a 20 inch CRT on our day off from school, eating Dunkaroos (after we were done with our Torino’s pizza rolls)*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835750)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:18 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835874)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:25 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:02 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836021)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Vigorous Tan Faggot Firefighter Dog Poop

Missing a POTUS off the list btw: Shenmue

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shenmue/comments/1dh3i6t/shenmue_was_truly_the_first_true_3d_open_world/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835741)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Vengeful big-titted den

I think lawman8 really loved this game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835751)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Vigorous Tan Faggot Firefighter Dog Poop

series was really good

and i hate these types of games



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49835754)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:02 PM
Author: walnut hall laser beams

i notice that you CONSPICUOUSLY left out LA Noire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836144)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:17 PM
Author: laughsome national

ff7

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836164)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:23 PM
Author: stirring gunner pozpig

A triumph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836176)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:30 PM
Author: fantasy-prone dashing wrinkle

Hardwar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836184)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 2:53 PM
Author: Rose misunderstood karate faggotry



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:32 PM
Author: hideous big hominid lettuce

a rich open world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836188)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 12:13 AM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre

180!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836227)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 2:18 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 2:18 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: insane rough-skinned factory reset button locale



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 11:58 PM
Author: exhilarant at-the-ready hell chad

fallout new vegas

kingdom come deliverance



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836218)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 12:06 AM
Author: dull principal's office coffee pot

Cyberpunk 2077 was great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49836224)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:59 AM
Author: stirring gunner pozpig

😴

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Date: April 23rd, 2026 2:18 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 2:18 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

(Goymer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49837338)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 2:38 PM
Author: Ultramarine heady shrine

MGSV was the best other than having a chunk of story cut off at the end. But best gameplay outside of GTA games and Saints Row 1/2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49837428)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 2:47 PM
Author: Free-loading gaming laptop foreskin

I should try that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859368&forum_id=2Reputation#49837449)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 2:49 PM
Author: light impertinent azn theatre



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