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dealing with home improvement salesmen is always a frustrating experience
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:11 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king im getting some quotes on some hvac shit. i had this company do another unit a couple years ago because of COSTCO benefits. theyre the only COSTCO hvac contractor in my area.
the first time i had to look up all the models for everything myself to see if they qualified for the energy efficient tax credit. same thing is happening this time because the dude keeps saying only the top units qualify, but that's not true. he also keeps adding the tax credit into the quote. asked for a quote for a standard unit 3x and he keeps fucking it up. then he said “why would you want that, its more expensive?” and i asked why theyd make a low efficiency unit that cost more, and he clarified he meant after the tax credit. i showed him on the irs website it qualified and he just ignored that.
every one of these salesman are dogshit. idk how you can spend your entire life selling this shit and still not know what youre talking about. ran this past a couple hvac tech friends who confirmed im correct about several things he's wrong about. i hate being a know-it-all client to a putative expert but these guys are just SO FUCKING DUMB and cannot follow SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS.
idk why they just dont have the actual techs do sales. maybe their time is more lucrative just doing the job and they pay their sales guys shit. im about to just forgo my COSTCO benefits and go with a small local breh just so I don't have to deal with this shit.
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:23 PM Author: Bossy theater boiling water And, once you do figure out what to order, hope you get an installer that's not a complete fucking retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361830) |
Date: October 20th, 2025 12:17 PM Author: Slate theater stage doctorate just call someone else lol
never spend even a single second interacting with incompetent people. as soon as they reveal themselves to be dumb/dishonest, kick them off your property |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: floppy school poor RC? i believe OP's point is all these prole scumbag salesmen are the same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361684) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:24 PM Author: Slate theater stage doctorate no you're just a psychopathic kike who gets off on scamming people
get the fuck out of this thread you short ugly pathological freak |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:25 PM Author: floppy school nonresponsive. you misread the OP, simple as that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361695) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: Slate theater stage doctorate the reason why these people are forced to use these sales tactics is to compensate for psychopathic, dishonest, scamming foreign invaders like you and CSLG who abuse the system in bad faith
cannot wait until you try to scam the wrong guy and he just kills you and your wife on the spot |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:39 PM Author: floppy school u seem unhinged (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361718) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 5:15 PM Author: Arousing Set Gunner he's unhinged. but you'd deserve it. any jury would acquit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49362453) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:41 AM Author: ruby angry dingle berry parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363450) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:57 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king this is the only company that offers COSTCO incentive, which the other local guys could not compete with last time. but the marginal value of that is starting to wear thing dealing with this retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361753) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:25 PM Author: Bossy theater boiling water Home Depot sucks ass as well. Got a new furnace from them that broke within two years, around the same time the bathroom remodel was proven to be a mess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361834) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:26 PM Author: Slate theater stage doctorate yeah the home depot/costco "contractors" and "tradesmen" are a joke, don't ever use them for anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361838) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 2:30 PM Author: floppy school we used lowes for blinds; i figured i could always bitch to lowes if the 3rd party contractors sucked, and it wouldnt be that hard to install blinds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49362028) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2025 12:26 PM Author: Bossy theater boiling water Lowe's absolutely dgaf any more than Home Depot does. I told them their contractor sucked ass and they said loloops and that was about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49368477) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2025 12:29 PM Author: floppy school deep pockets. complain to the CEO then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49368489) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:20 PM Author: Aromatic hell prole Every salesman basically tries to oversell you on shit you don't need. You have to be an advocate for yourself. Barely any salesmen give two shits about doing right by their customer or repeat business. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361680) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:24 PM Author: floppy school POWERGOYIM *want* the tax credit amount included in the total. gives their retarded brains some peace of mind somehow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361688) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:21 AM Author: ruddy histrionic garrison pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363523) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: Thriller locale degenerate It’s a nightmare. They’re all trying to take advantage of you and the ones who aren’t are fools because they can get away with it. This is not the 1950s where you’re all going to church together, your kids are in school together, you all root for the Indians, etc. This is living in a low-trust society, which has changed in our lifetimes.
It’s the old trope of a woman going to a mechanic and paying $200 for premium air in her tires, etc. except it’s every single major purchase you make and we’re all women. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: adventurous crusty elastic band field im gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361721) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 9:21 PM Author: Silver Native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49362987) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: irradiated skinny woman That's why every kike must be exterminated. They eroded accountability, and until there's accountability, we have anarchy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361726) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: Slate theater stage doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361728) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:48 PM Author: Blathering Main People You having 3 jobs is the kikiest shit ever. You're part of the problem, fool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361729) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:50 PM Author: irradiated skinny woman In what world is being overemployed the "kikiest shit ever"? I'm just responding to the world they've created. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361733) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:52 PM Author: Lake Kitchen Working hard is Puritan work ethic, not "kikey shit." Kikey shit is spending hours to save $100 via Costco. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361736) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:28 PM Author: Bossy theater boiling water This. Kikes, while often intelligent, will use that intelligence to run scams. Working hard isn't in their vocabulary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361849) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:30 PM Author: irradiated skinny woman Ever watch a kike do manual labor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361855) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:32 PM Author: Bossy theater boiling water I don't know any who would, except this one kike I know who is a slumlord. It's possible he might pick up a wrench occasionally. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361860) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 3:43 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king i had a kike come out for some chimney stuff. blew my mind. like right off the boat kike. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49362217) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:00 PM Author: Lake Kitchen Israeli? Once upon a time I had a ductless AC system installed by some Israel Middle Eastern Jew (they're basically Arab Jews). He was easily the least Jewy Jew I ever met. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364024) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:04 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king i assume so. i exchanged numbers with him because i got him to agree to do it as a side job (typical!) and the default characters were jewish squigly type and i saw his last name was incredibly long and jewish but he was going by a pronouncable one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364043) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:11 PM Author: Lake Kitchen But did the name sound Euro or did it sound Arab? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364055) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:29 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king he was 109% jewish. i made a thread about it at the time but i can't find it, i must not have put chimney in the title and can't find it. i had never encountered a blue collar jew before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364100) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:56 PM Author: Lake Kitchen I get that, but there are different kinds of Jews. The kind most XOers know are Ashkenazi (European) Jews. Arab Jews are a different animal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364159) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:04 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king ah i see. he had the eurojew complexion, intonation, and mannerisms. like stereotypical crown heights jew without the hasidic adornments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364177) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2025 1:33 PM Author: Lake Kitchen Interesting. I've never seen those do real labor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49368738) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2025 12:27 PM Author: Bossy theater boiling water There used to be one on my soccer team who was about 70 years old in 2010, seemed legit but I'm sure his demographic is mostly det by now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49368481) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:49 PM Author: Lake Kitchen (Shaker Heights bro) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361730) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:26 PM Author: Bossy theater boiling water Everyone is a tranny or retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361839) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 3:50 PM Author: Violet unhinged home queen of the night tbf, “rooting for the indians” is a big part of how we got here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49362233) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 10:14 PM Author: medicated lodge gaping 100% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363113) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:35 AM Author: ruddy histrionic garrison pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363446) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:45 PM Author: Blathering Main People Techs don't do sales because they're often English limited. The whole point of a sales bro is to understand the product. It sounds like this is just a shitty company which is probably why they are partnered with Costco. They make lower profits but do more volume. I used to get my eye exam at Costco because some prole friend told me it was cheaper and just as good. But they did a rush job and I had to go to another place that cost more but my prescription was spot on. You just need to go somewhere better than Costco and yes they'll charge you more but you get what you pay for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361722) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:00 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king the techs have all been white and 180. i even have one of theirs cell phones for side jobs. i might even just call him qbout this but i feel guilty bitching about his coworker and potentially getting the salesbro in trouble. he's not malicious, just stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361756) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:29 PM Author: Bossy theater boiling water Techs around here are often white boys in lumberjack costumes, but they either don't give a shit or are on meth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361853) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 7:59 AM Author: Razzle aggressive nursing home If you want good work you gotta catch a bro in the early phases of his meth habit. Many of these guys dropped out of school because their parents were too out of it to obtain Adderall for them, and they have a good few years as they discover how much work they can get done on stims. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363513) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:52 PM Author: Ivory excitant jap Is the credit a flat amount? The same no matter the unit? If it varies or it's a percentage or applies to the unit but not the labor it's helpful to include it. Most people cannot do simple math. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361737) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 4:41 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king there's multiple different credits and rebates. i get that people can't do simple math and some might even prefer to have the net price laid out of them. but i've asked him not to, mostly because he's wrong about some of the rebates that happen after the sale. i just want to see what his company is going to charge and figure out the other stuff for myself.
it's the same with car sales. the salesmen are trained to talk about the monthly price because they're trained to and used to retards who can only think of purchase in those terms. most of their customers probably prefer this too. and they look at you like you have two heads if you have a cash price, or if you choose shorter term financing with a lower APR.
"but... the monthly payments are higher!" |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:03 AM Author: Ivory excitant jap A huge percentage of people prefer it the way he does it. In his mind if he gives you the base price without rebates some competitor will give you a lower price that includes rebates and he’ll lose the sale. Which is correct 98% of the time. It’s the most efficient strategy for him, who cares what you asked for? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363516) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:55 PM Author: Lake Kitchen I did this a year ago. I just went to my usual HVAC company which has perfect ratings and has been a pleasure to work with. They gave me a reasonable quote, compared one other well reviewed place as a reality check and then accepted the original offer.
Could I have saved some small amount doing some Costco BS? Perhaps, but then I'd be in a frustrating shitshow of poor service like OP. People that aren't willing to pay for good service will always be the ones complaining about poor service. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 4:44 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king i've used this company before and their "service" (installation and service) is great. it's their sales staff that sucks. that's why i'm considering going with them again, i just have to get through the gauntlet of this retarded salesman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49362357) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 5:13 PM Author: Lake Kitchen The "sales guy" is also a foreman for the projects for this company so he knew everything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49362441) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 5:22 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king no, this is some washed up boomer salesman. i used to be in sales and there are a ton of these guys. gene levine types. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49362469) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:00 PM Author: Lake Kitchen Awful. Should have gone with a different company. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364027) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:22 PM Author: Bossy theater boiling water They typically suck. Just remodeled my bathroom about a year ago, you can see where they fucked up in the shower by putting wood in it with no treatment after I asked them to watch out for that shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49361822) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 3:52 PM Author: wine trip stage wrinkle if youre house is old just let it go to shit and tell your wife to fuck off. only replace hvac stuff. its a teardown anyways and youre a retard if you ever try to sell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49362237) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:49 AM Author: ruby angry dingle berry parlor Cr old money let their homes and furniture go to shit. Only new money Persians pay for remodels and shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363456) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 10:11 PM Author: dashing macaca I was kicking around getting a lease on a new EV before the tax credits ran out. Emailed 4 dealerships - I got probably 25 emails but only 1 gave me a fucking quote on the cars listed on their website. The other emails all insisted i come down to the office.
You can see where Tesla is super popular for just ordering the exact car you want on standard pricing in 10 minutes. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 10:17 PM Author: medicated lodge gaping lol, thinking costco is giving you a "deal" is a prole tell, reminds me of the truecar "deals"
those are not deals, there is more room to negotiate and they can all offer that deal JFC aren't you gujurati? |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: dashing macaca I think the idea of Costco is that they can't rip you off or they'll lose their Costco referalls - which i'm assuming is extremely lucrative.
Saves you the time of having to vet the other vendors, many of whom will just fuck you over some way at some point. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 10:21 PM Author: medicated lodge gaping the better vendors aren't willing to put up with costco's T&Cs
it's 10 minutes of research to find the best contractors in your area on anything |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 10:23 PM Author: Blathering Main People This is essentially what I was trying to say. The Costco referral program is a quick fix chop shop. Anyone independent has to work harder for your dollar. Of course you have the crooks but you also have the top tier service. The top of the field isn't depending on Costco for business. They're charging more and doing better work. People go to Costco because it's cheaper and has brand cachet. But what you get for less money is a lower quality service. For something small, maybe. For a custom job done right hit the white pages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363132) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 11:07 PM Author: Silver Native i mean, not the white pages, where you're throwing darts - but trying to read some reviews and find the best reviewed independent, absolutely (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363193) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 11:08 PM Author: Blathering Main People It was a metaphor. Met-a-phor. Is all subtlety lost on you people? We live in a SOCIETY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363197) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 3:07 AM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king i said i compared quotes with other companies and also ran quotes by hvac friends. costco came out best last time. this type of black and white thinking is so stupid. few things are always one way. if costco was always the worst option they wouldn't be very successful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363367) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:33 AM Author: floppy school >it's 10 minutes of research to find the best contractors in your area on anything
lol @ you, you retard ethnic, choosing contractors based on fake online reviews -- rather than word of mouth with personal references |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:56 PM Author: medicated lodge gaping kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364009) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 3:15 AM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king part of the deal is costco giving me cash. the company's quotes are in line with other quotes ive received for the exact same equipment. those companies said they couldn't compete with that.
bro you hired randoms off nextdoor and constantly have contractor problems. i know what im doing here, im just annoyed at the process and bitching about it. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:55 PM Author: medicated lodge gaping i haven't hired anyone off nextdoor and i don't fall for goyishe scams. have i had bad contractors? yes that's normal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364005) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:31 PM Author: Bespoke vigorous knife philosopher-king right so you're familiar with this.
the only reason i mentioned COSTCO was to stave off the "just go somewhere else lol" comments. it's like buying a new car at a dealership with a bunch of shitty salesman. they're the only game in town, and while the car might be 180, you have to get past the gauntlet of retarded salesman.
after several quotes the local brehs cannot match COSTCO incentives. and i know this company does a good job on installation and service because i've used them for other stuff. i just have to get past the gauntlet of retarded salesd00ds. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:35 AM Author: ruddy histrionic garrison pistol ran this past a couple hvac tech friends (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363447) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:15 PM Author: Slate theater stage doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364065) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:31 PM Author: medicated lodge gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49364102) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 7:06 AM Author: ruddy histrionic garrison pistol good thread from gunner actually... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788010&forum_id=2Reputation#49363471) |
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Date: November 4th, 2025 9:09 AM Author: Dick Cheyneys baboon heart ever-beating in coffin (gunneratttt) two white american goys have been very politely and responsibly installing some hvac over the past two days. idk why they main dude couldn't have sold me the system.
as i was typing this the dude came in and offered to do some extra work for free that would have been difficult but for the walls being open. 180! |