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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Comical twinkling uncleanness
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Provocative Candlestick Maker
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
cerebral haunted graveyard ladyboy
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Geriatric Locale Cumskin
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
cerebral haunted graveyard ladyboy
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Geriatric Locale Cumskin
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
cerebral haunted graveyard ladyboy
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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supple people who are hurt
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Pearly disturbing university
  05/29/25
cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
spruce foreskin
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Chrome brunch quadroon
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
laughsome scarlet meetinghouse kitty
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
vibrant copper toilet seat sex offender
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Comical twinkling uncleanness

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Provocative Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: cerebral haunted graveyard ladyboy

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Geriatric Locale Cumskin

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: cerebral haunted graveyard ladyboy

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Geriatric Locale Cumskin

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: cerebral haunted graveyard ladyboy

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Chrome brunch quadroon

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Tan greedy stag film windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: supple people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Pearly disturbing university

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Bateful Coldplay Fan Sound Barrier

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: spruce foreskin

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Chrome brunch quadroon

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: laughsome scarlet meetinghouse kitty

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: vibrant copper toilet seat sex offender

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Territorial sandwich queen of the night

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49105022)