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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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180 theater
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
splenetic roommate
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Fishy Candlestick Maker Piazza
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
splenetic roommate
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Fishy Candlestick Maker Piazza
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Soggy cuckold cuckoldry
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
chestnut talking gas station lettuce
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
splenetic roommate
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Exciting orange ratface pocket flask
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
topaz pontificating theater stage
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
splenetic roommate
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
topaz pontificating theater stage
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
topaz pontificating theater stage
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
splenetic roommate
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Yellow angry nursing home international law enforcement agency
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
splenetic roommate
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
splenetic roommate
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
splenetic roommate
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
amethyst spot pozpig
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
French Volcanic Crater Multi-billionaire
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
splenetic roommate
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
180 theater
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
splenetic roommate
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
histrionic chapel electric furnace
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Thriller carmine range
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Vigorous stage factory reset button
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
180 theater
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Lake Titillating Trust Fund Digit Ratio
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
splenetic roommate
  06/26/25
...
opaque shaky new version
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
mint filthy bbw
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
cowardly dark abode
  06/26/25
...
Medicated quadroon
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Misanthropic Hunting Ground
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
flirting skinny woman striped hyena
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
translucent nofapping preventive strike
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
splenetic roommate
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
flirting skinny woman striped hyena
  06/27/25
How was penn?
splenetic roommate
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Exciting orange ratface pocket flask
  06/27/25
...
splenetic roommate
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Yapping Crystalline Fortuitous Meteor
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
flirting skinny woman striped hyena
  06/27/25
...
Abnormal police squad
  06/27/25
...
splenetic roommate
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
translucent nofapping preventive strike
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Exciting orange ratface pocket flask
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Know-it-all pistol
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
mint filthy bbw
  06/27/25
...
maize goyim corn cake
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pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: 180 theater

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Fishy Candlestick Maker Piazza

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Fishy Candlestick Maker Piazza

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Soggy cuckold cuckoldry

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: chestnut talking gas station lettuce

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: splenetic roommate

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Exciting orange ratface pocket flask

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: topaz pontificating theater stage

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: topaz pontificating theater stage

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: topaz pontificating theater stage

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Yellow angry nursing home international law enforcement agency

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: amethyst spot pozpig

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: French Volcanic Crater Multi-billionaire

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: 180 theater

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: histrionic chapel electric furnace

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Thriller carmine range

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Vigorous stage factory reset button

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: 180 theater

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Lake Titillating Trust Fund Digit Ratio

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: splenetic roommate

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: opaque shaky new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: mint filthy bbw

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: cowardly dark abode

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Medicated quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Misanthropic Hunting Ground

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: flirting skinny woman striped hyena

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: translucent nofapping preventive strike

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: splenetic roommate

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: flirting skinny woman striped hyena

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: splenetic roommate

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Exciting orange ratface pocket flask

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: splenetic roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Yapping Crystalline Fortuitous Meteor

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: flirting skinny woman striped hyena

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Abnormal police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: splenetic roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: translucent nofapping preventive strike

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Exciting orange ratface pocket flask

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Know-it-all pistol

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: mint filthy bbw

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: maize goyim corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: pale cruel-hearted kitty crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Reputation#49053817)